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ArcticEmpress
04-20-2002, 03:50 PM
things i did not know about this book going in: JK Rowling is a woman. for some reason i always thought that it was a guy writing these books. Ms. Rowling is also a single mother living in Edinburgh who was struggling financially before this book got published. My esteem for this book about doubled upon reading this. so she's not the money mongering evil corporate man from london that i imagined.

The Harry Potter series (http://www.vstore.com/cgi-bin/pagegen/vstoremovies/filimhobbit/page.html?keywords=harry+potter&mode=search&file=/page/search/searchresultsv1.spl&catid=26307) is a set that's recommended to those who've read His Dark Materials, at least according to some big online bookstores. Having liked His Dark Materials i figured it was finally a good time to give Mr. Potter a go. First, let me say that these two series are nothing alike. Pullman's writing, dialog and characterization are far more sophisticated and far superior to Rowling's. Rowling's series is much more appropriate for a younger audience, say 7 to 12. Characters in the potter series are typecast and entirely fictional, for lack of a better word. Harry seems to be the only one close to being a real person with a real set of emotions. His adoptive muggle family are too mean to be taken seriously, his friends are primarily characterized by one single trait or another, and his professors are basicly all portrayed as harmless but well meaning nuisances. Everything seems one dimensional.

That aside, it has to be reiterated that this is a series for young kids who won't care if Ron has a dark evil side that is mostly covered up by his nice friendly side, and who are just learning that not everything is the way it seems. Harry Potter is a fun read. It has all the mischievious adventure and laughs you could ask for in children's fiction. And actually it reminded me a lot of my favorite series as a kid, The Song of the Lioness (http://www.vstore.com/cgi-bin/pagegen/vstoremovies/filimhobbit/page.html?keywords=song+of+the+lioness&mode=search&file=/page/search/searchresultsv1.spl&catid=26307). Both deal with a child going to school for newly discovered talents, and both follow the adventures that inevitably follow given that situation.

The suspense in Harry isn't terribly compelling, but the laughs are. These books are read to be enjoyed. As such, they're great books and perfect for reading to your kid before bed (or so i would imagine). There is one part in the book that might frighten kids (the forest scene), but other than that, the book is lighthearted and easy to follow.

Should this be a movie. if you're after money, sure. otherwise, why mess up a great thing like a book? one of the wonderful things about harry is that it will appeal to kids and get them to read again. I don't think taking a kid to the movie will make them go out and want to read the book. Maybe this is true with the younger kids (5-7) who like having stories reread to them over and over, but for the older kids (8-12) once is more than enough. That once should be in book form, not movie form, unless of course, they're aspiring filmmakers/critics.

MBNorris
04-20-2002, 03:56 PM
yeah it's a good series and it is definitely written on a lower level than Pullman's. But I didn't like Pullman's for whatever reason.

But, the first book is the worst of the 4 books that have been written.

Matt

Marty Rotten
04-21-2002, 12:26 AM
I think all four of them are great. They're funny exciting and well written. Besides, I like the fact that they really bug the Religious Right.

The One Silivren
04-21-2002, 01:16 AM
if it wasn't so bloody frightening it would be almost funny, the way the religious right bandies about terms like "satanism" and "witchcraft" with a mindbogglingly self-satisfied ignorance that isn't even ashamed of not having read the books in the first place. i mean, these books teach kids valuable lessons, and they are a lot of fun to read. i admit i couldn't put them down (though being an english grad i couldn't always admit that to people without getting the disbelieving smirk, elitist bastards all of them!) but back to the religious right, when books are actually getting burned, it is time to get worried about the hold the religious right has on our education and government. what's next? do we start burning people at the stake again? this is the same people who think teletubbies are gay propaganda because the purple one has a purse. a purse! it's a goddamn fluffy gender neutral alien like thing! it's an acid version of the pillsbury dough boy! it HAS no message! aaaargh. i am a little upset. deep cleansing breaths....thank you for letting me vent.

Marty Rotten
04-21-2002, 10:28 PM
I know what you mean, One, it's disgusting. I mean if they don't want their own children reading it that's one thing, but they have no right to burn copies from the libraries and schools and try to pressure people not to sell it. Then they're violating the rights of others. I have heard about the Harry Potter book burnings myself. I wonder which book they got the inspiration for that from? The Bible or Mein Kampf?

But throughout history there have been religious and moral objections to such books as Goethe's FAUST, HUCKLEBERRY FINN, TREASURE ISLAND, SLAUGTHERHOUSE FIVE, CATCHER IN THE RYE, 1984, Shakespeare's MERCHANT OF VENICE, and a score of other great classics. So I guess Harry Potter is in some pretty good company.

Film Hobbit
04-21-2002, 11:55 PM
They are STILL doing it over Huck Finn. Heard of a school banning it the other day.

masterthes
04-23-2002, 12:30 AM
I kind of agree that the books got better as they moved along. I say kind of because personally, I thought the third book was better than the last one.

crappertay
04-24-2002, 08:36 PM
Philosopher's Stone goddammit!!! :lol:

And I was sure there's five books? Hold on while I go check...

Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

OK, my bad there is a fifth but it's not been released yet:

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix