View Full Version : Leonard Nimoy: It's God, captain -- but not as we know her
Cogito
05-13-2004, 02:22 AM
Whaaaaa...?
Leonard Nimoy (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004220681,00.html) takes picture of woman wearing Jewish prayer accessories traditionally only worn by men, claiming he has captured the feminine essence of God, publishing them in a book that was subsequently banned by Jewish leaders.
Dude's snapped, that's all there is to it.
legna
05-13-2004, 08:04 AM
Actually, Jewish prayer accessories are only worn by men in Orthodox synagog's. In Reform men or woman can wear them.
Huh?
The older Nimoy gets, the more Jewish he gets.
Now he's gotten too Jewish for Jews.
Cogito
05-13-2004, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by legna
Actually, Jewish prayer accessories are only worn by men in Orthodox synagog's. In Reform men or woman can wear them.
Ah cool, good call -- thanks. I'm not THAT knowledgeable about it, but I know the most common form in the world, is not the most common in Israel -- and the one most common in Israel is one of the more conservative ones, and they have the authority to determine what makes a person Jewish, and that their stance is different from the former, in that they insist you have to have a Jewish mother, in order to be Jewish? Would that be the Reform, and Orthodox, respectively?
legna
05-14-2004, 11:02 AM
All Jews believe that your mother must be Jewish for you to be Jewish. There are a mixture of Jews in Israel, no matter if you are Orthodox, conservative or reform, Israel is all of our homeland. However the Orthodox Jews are often the ones making the descions about things such as this.
Orthodox jews are much like the Pharsee's in Jesuses time- they follow the letter of the law litterally. The follow 312 commandments, and are basically following the same religion that was followed in ancient times.
Conservative Jews are those that follow most of the laws, but are not as stringent about them.
A reform Jew is someone who has faith in the religion but doesn't necessarily follow the laws.
For instance, the mixing meat and milk law- an Orthodox Jew would have 2 kitchens. One for meat and one for everything else. A Conservative jew would just not eat them in the same meal, but would use the same kitchen. They may have seperate utensils, but not necessarily. A reform Jew would chow down on a cheesburger happily. Or the Sabbath, a reform jew may go to Temple, or they may not. Some will have Challa and light the sabath candles, some may not. Both the Orthodox and conservative jews will observe the sabbath, going to temple, lighting the sabbath lights, not using electricity or driving or doing much else, but the conservatives make exceptions for modern life. If they are in pain, they will take a pain killer, the orthodox would not. They may drive to temple, an orthodox would walk. They may read or play games or do other things, the orthodox would just pray.
An Orthodox temple, the women are seperated from the men, in a balcony above, and hidden by curtains. They are not allowed to read Torah or touch it or say prayers loud enough to be heard. Orthodox temples are also very noisy places, where people often just come to socialize, rather than honestly pray. They can be very disrespectfull. At a conservative temple, the women may be in the same room, and same floor, but often hidden behind a curtain. Again they may not pray loud enough to be heard, but they can touch the torah. But these are more respectfull. At a reform temple, both men and women can wear the tallit and read and touch the torah. They are in teh same room as men, and are on equal standing.
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