Ideal Summerslam Lineup

[B1ade Runner]

Summerslam has the potential to be the best ppv of the year. Some great feuds between some big names seem to be building and this double-brand event seems like the best place to settle everything. WWE has yet to put on a show that I would call the "best" of the year. Here is the lineup that I would like to see this August (in no order):

World Heavyweight Championship
Chris Benoit (c) vs. Triple H

WWE Championship
John “Bradshaw” Layfield (c) vs. The Undertaker

WWE Intercontinental Championship
Edge (c) vs. Randy Orton vs. Shelton Benjamin

WWE United States Championship (vacant)
John Cena vs. Booker T

World Tag Team Championships
La Resistance (c) vs. Eugene and William Regal

Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle

Kane vs. Shawn Michaels

Rob Van Dam vs. Rene Dupree

[masterthes]

Hmm, I would rather think it'd be John Cena versus Kurt Angle and have a triple threat between Eddie/JBL/Undertaker.

[fafhrd]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by B1ade Runner
Summerslam has the potential to be the best ppv of the year. Some great feuds between some big names seem to be building and this double-brand event seems like the best place to settle everything. WWE has yet to put on a show that I would call the "best" of the year. Here is the lineup that I would like to see this August (in no order):p

I agree, Summerslam may well have a very good lineup, as good if not better than WM XX's lineup. But with the way Smackdown has been of late, I have no faith in that part of the WWE brand to do anything right.

World Heavyweight Championship
Chris Benoit (c) vs. Triple H

Only problem with this match is that Triple H just pissed Eugene off on Raw. That means that Hunter is going to have to deal with Eugene for a while now, as well. This could, if the WWE wants to hotshot this, lead to a Benoit/Triple H/Eugene triple threat for the title. But this could also force Hunter to deal with Eugene separately, while Benoit fights another contender. Jericho, anyone?

WWE Championship
John “Bradshaw” Layfield (c) vs. The Undertaker

Word is that they're going for a JBL/Eddie/Undertaker match instead. Not sure I like that; I see no chemistry between the three of them in the ring. Eddie should never have dropped the title in the first place, and they're now stuck with a weak champion who can't make anyone look good in the ring. I'll give Bradshaw credit for giving it his all, but he's shown that he's clearly not ready for this type of a push at least in the ring. Eddie/Undertaker might be interesting if they want to go that path, though.

WWE Intercontinental Championship
Edge (c) vs. Randy Orton vs. Shelton Benjamin

This is probably how the match will shake out, I like how all three have looked in the ring. They're all deserving (even Orton, who I don't like!) and this might be the sleeper match on the card.

WWE United States Championship (vacant)
John Cena vs. Booker T

It should be RVD vs. Booker, with Cena taking on Angle instead. They MIGHT throw in Luther Raines just to annoy everyone, but I'm starting to like his character with each passing week. He "gets it". RVD and Booker can easily put on a show in the ring, and both of them are deserving of this match. Don't forget Kenzuo Suzuki, he may be a factor in either match.

World Tag Team Championships
La Resistance (c) vs. Eugene and William Regal

This happens only if Eugene is kept from feuding with Hunter. If not, my pick is that Rhyno and Tajiri get to take on La Resistance. They're looking good on Raw so far.

Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle

All signs point to a Cena/Angle matchup at this juncture. Angle's been in Cena's hair for a while now, and it makes sense to push Angle's return against Cena, giving each other a nice rub.

Kane vs. Shawn Michaels

If HBK comes back on time, this is the match they'll go with.

Rob Van Dam vs. Rene Dupree

I like the matchup, but they'll prob not do this match. I think I'd throw in a three way matchup for the SD tag titles- Kidman/London vs. Dudleys vs. Bashams. If they're smart, they'll make it tables/ladders or something like that. Odds are they'll do a Kidman/London vs. Dudleys match instead.

Don't forget the Cruiserweight title-
Rey will defend against someone NOT named Chavo. That leaves us with Noble, Akio, Spike, and Moore. I'd prefer Akio, he's got the most untapped talent of the bunch.

And in all this, I don't know what they'll do with Flair, Battista, Christian, Jericho, Dupree, Matt, etc.

Fafhrd

[B1ade Runner]

This could, if the WWE wants to hotshot this, lead to a Benoit/Triple H/Eugene triple threat for the title.Raw relies too much on triple threat matches. They already had one at Backlash, WrestleMania XX, and Armageddon.

Eddie/Undertaker might be interesting if they want to go that path, though.I actually see no good coming out of that feud. At least JBL has a Millon-Dollar-Man thing going on.

It should be RVD vs. Booker, with Cena taking on Angle instead. They MIGHT throw in Luther Raines just to annoy everyone, but I'm starting to like his character with each passing week. He "gets it". RVD and Booker can easily put on a show in the ring, and both of them are deserving of this match.RVD/Booker would be great, but Angle/Cena was done just last October. Let it settle for a while.

[fafhrd]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by B1ade Runner
Raw relies too much on triple threat matches. They already had one at Backlash, WrestleMania XX, and Armageddon.

Then have Benoit face someone other than hunter at the ppv. Maybe....Orton? Or Jericho? Man, his options are limited right now. Hunter seems to be zeroing in on a Eugene feud.

I actually see no good coming out of that feud. At least JBL has a Millon-Dollar-Man thing going on.

At least in promos, JBL is starting to really get it going. He can make his character work against anyone in that area. But in the ring, feh, he's got man tits.

And I think we're in agreement that a feud between UT/Eddie wouldn't be ideal, except that they could put on a nice match.

RVD/Booker would be great, but Angle/Cena was done just last October Let it settle for a while.

The odds are that they'll have Eddie in the title picture, so that means that Angle's going to be SOL in that regards of a rematch with Eddie. In an ideal world, Eddie will win this week's Smackdown, regain the title, and then face Angle for the title at Summerslam, and JBL/UT can do a #1 contenders' match.

Fafhrd

[B1ade Runner]

Originally posted by fafhrd
In an ideal world, Eddie will win this week's Smackdown, regain the title, and then face Angle for the title at Summerslam, and JBL/UT can do a #1 contenders' match.Either way is fine by me.

[Matt]

why is the U.S. Title vacant? Sorry I haven't watched either in around a year, if then. So, you guys are my link.

[fafhrd]

Originally posted by Matt UGA
why is the U.S. Title vacant? Sorry I haven't watched either in around a year, if then. So, you guys are my link.

Angle's the GM, currently incapacitated in a wheelchair (storyline stuff) and he hates Cena. Cena hates him. Angle's been tryng to mess with Cena for weeks now, and Cena's tried to go after him as a result. Angle made sure that Cena couldn;t touch him, so he got the "Board of Directors" to strip Cena of the US title in the event of Cena touching Angle.

This past week on Smackdown, Cena went for a clothseline on Luther Raines, who was interferring in his title match against Booker T, but missed, hit Angle, and got the title stripped from him as a result.

Fafhrd

[Bordick]

The whole Eugene/Evolution thing was beginning to show HHH/Orton potential. Can't wait for that one when they go through with it.

[B1ade Runner]

Update from NoDQ.com:

It is still expected that the top Smackdown matches for Summerslam will be John Bradshaw Layfield vs. The Undertaker for the WWE Title and Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero. Word is that WWE views Bradshaw as a long term champion and that he could keep the WWE Title past Summerslam as long as 'Taker has no problems in putting him over.

As for RAW, a Chris Benoit vs. Triple H World Title match seems likely, possibly with Eugene as the special ref. :thumbup

[masterthes]

So, then Cena/Angle would be the next SD PPV?

[fafhrd]

Problem is, is that no one likes JBL. No one wanted him as champ, and no one sees him as a legit champion. He won only because Angle awarded him the darn title on a giant plothole of a storyline (nice to forget that THE REFS DECISIONS ARE FINAL, ASSHOLES!)He's only champ right now because Vince got it in his head that the media was wrong about the whole Munich incident (when they were right about it) and tried to stick by his man. Admirable, but goddamn stupid. Eddie should still be champ, and there really was no reason to take the belt off of him. What would you rather have as your SD main event, JBL/UT for the title or Eddie/Angle for the title? What's the better draw?

The money match is Eddie/Angle. No one is going to get Summerslam to see JBL/UT for the title. No one.

On the other hand, they WILL see Summerslam to see Benoit/HHH for the title. THAT'S a money match if there ever was one.

Fafhrd

[B1ade Runner]

Originally posted by fafhrd
The money match is Eddie/Angle. No one is going to get Summerslam to see JBL/UT for the title. No one.I agree. Summerslam is a great place for WrestleMania rematches. Let Guerrero win and take on The Undertaker at Unforgiven.

[Bordick]

Originally posted by fafhrd
The money match is Eddie/Angle. No one is going to get Summerslam to see JBL/UT for the title. No one.
Thank God for Raw.
On the other hand, they WILL see Summerslam to see Benoit/HHH for the title. THAT'S a money match if there ever was one. From what I saw on the RAW rebound on Smackdown this week, it looked like there was a bit of a weak finish at Vengeance.

[B1ade Runner]

Originally posted by Bordick
From what I saw on the RAW rebound on Smackdown this week, it looked like there was a bit of a weak finish at Vengeance. It was a typical "the rematch will be better" ending.

[Phantasm]

I'd really love to see them do more with Shane (Gregory) Helms taking on Flair. Maybe have Helms drop his superhero gimmick after losing to Flair on Monday, but still having a feud with Flair to prove that he does have what it takes. Then Flair could accept him into Evolution after Helms beats Flair. Helms was always a great heel, and would make a perfect tag partner with Orton, Flair or Batista.
That's something I'd like to see, but I see them dropping the story the same way they have with every other time with Helms.

Another thing that has nothing to do with Summerslam...
I always pictured Helms turning "Super Villain" and then Rosie stepping it up, becoming a full fledged superhero to take him down.

[B1ade Runner]

Originally posted by PhantaZm Azh
I always pictured Helms turning "Super Villain" and then Rosie stepping it up, becoming a full fledged superhero to take him down. That would actually be pretty cool.

[fafhrd]

Originally posted by PhantaZm Azh
I'd really love to see them do more with Shane (Gregory) Helms taking on Flair. Maybe have Helms drop his superhero gimmick after losing to Flair on Monday, but still having a feud with Flair to prove that he does have what it takes. Then Flair could accept him into Evolution after Helms beats Flair. Helms was always a great heel, and would make a perfect tag partner with Orton, Flair or Batista.
That's something I'd like to see, but I see them dropping the story the same way they have with every other time with Helms.

Another thing that has nothing to do with Summerslam...
I always pictured Helms turning "Super Villain" and then Rosie stepping it up, becoming a full fledged superhero to take him down.

I love your idea, but there's one problem: it requires the writing team for Raw to think hard about something. They've been good, but they're bound to have a brain cramp sooner or later :lol

Fafhrd

[Phantasm]

Originally posted by fafhrd
I love your idea, but there's one problem: it requires the writing team for Raw to think hard about something. They've been good, but they're bound to have a brain cramp sooner or later :lol

Fafhrd

I completely agree.
I wouldn't mind having an Evil Helms back with a certain Mighty Molly, either. And I love the fact that she has short hair now. Hate the fact that they won't just let her wrestle without a wig... I've got a thing for short haired women, mostly in part to my lovely Norbert who has been known to be bald in the past.

[fafhrd]

Originally posted by PhantaZm Azh
I completely agree.
I wouldn't mind having an Evil Helms back with a certain Mighty Molly, either. And I love the fact that she has short hair now. Hate the fact that they won't just let her wrestle without a wig... I've got a thing for short haired women, mostly in part to my lovely Norbert who has been known to be bald in the past.

even if they don't have him turn heel, a face Gregory Helms against Evolution would be cool. His Hurricane character's gone as far as it really can, and Flair's right about that. My biggest problem with Helms is that they keep teasing that they'll do something with him- and then they forget he exists for months on end. It's frustrating doing that to a talent they they KNOW has the skills inside and outside the ring to be great. I mean, Helms is a guy who's beaten The Rock, and has taken Hunter and Flair to the limit. Yet he's still in a lame tag team with Rosie? What gives?

Oh, and as long as you don't dress your Norbert up as Sinead O'Connor or Kane or something, then that's fine by me :lol

Fafhrd

[Phantasm]

Sinead was hot.

[fafhrd]

Potentially Bad News, folks: Eddie Guerrero suffered a hamstring injury against JBL in Japan this past week. We don't know the severity of the injury as of now, but the odds are that he'll be able to wrestle Angle or whoever at Summerslam. Until then, expect a very light load of wrestling for him. I just hope this is something he can either work through, or heal quickly, unlike Jose Reyes on the Mets. Ack.

Fafhrd

[B1ade Runner]

Then they need to keep Guerrero off his feet until Summerslam, especially if he is going to wrestle Angle.

[masterthes]

Yeah, probably have him be "suspended" by Angle.

[fafhrd]

Originally posted by masterthes
Yeah, probably have him be "suspended" by Angle.

Question now becomes one of: Does Angle stay as GM? If Angle wants to fight either Eddie or Cena, he can't also be GM. They're going to remove him from that position and install someone else there. But who? The Contenders are:

-Paul Heyman (who never should have left the role in the first place)
-Stephanie McMahon (but she gets old really fast at that role)
-Arn Anderson (The Enforcer as GM? I can dig it)
-Big Show (what would piss Angle off more than Big Show coming back AS the GM?)
- Mick Foley (been there, done good at it, and he'd be an instant draw for SD)

Any other ideas?

Fafhrd

[B1ade Runner]

Stick with what works: Paul Heyman should be GM again.

[Phantasm]

Now now. Don't hold back. Say what you're all REALLY thinking. No? Okay. I'll do it for you.

Rico + GM= Ratings

:D

[masterthes]

how about Shane?

[Phantasm]

can you say "belie dat, playa"

[fafhrd]

hmmm...Teddy Long would work from a storyline perspective, but I don't think he's big enough of a draw to work realistically. On the other hand, Shane O'Mac would be dynamite!

Fafhrd

[Col. Kurtz]

I don't think Arn Anderson would be a good draw either, but I'd like to see him on TV.

Paul Heyman is gonna manage Heidenreich, so I doubt that he'll be General Manager. I have no idea who it will be. Maybe Kurt retains the position.

Or Vinnie Mac returns to TV.

[B1ade Runner]

Two matches announced:

- Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle

- John Bradshaw Layfield vs. The Undertaker for the WWE Title.

:bluntchop

[masterthes]

next week, Cena/Booker will probably be announced, and I think the Eddie/Angle match should be a number one contenders match for the title.

[B1ade Runner]

I repeat:

:bluntchop

[masterthes]

Well, you know that probably Heindenreich will most likely screw Taker out of the title, so I'm not exactly going to be pleased with this match, unless Taker does win the belt, because let's face it, Undertaker=ratings

[B1ade Runner]

I would like to see The Undertaker have one last title run, even if he does end up losing it to Eddie Guerrero at Unforgiven.

[B1ade Runner]

Update from PWInsider.com:

As reported earlier, Chris Benoit will not wrestle Triple H at this year's Summerslam event. Instead, it will be Triple H vs. Eugene in one of the RAW main events on the show.

The second RAW main event will be Chris Benoit vs. Randy Orton for the World Heavyweight Title. We are being told by reliable sources close to the situation that WWE is very interested in putting the title on Orton, and the plan right now is that Orton will indeed win the belt from Benoit at Summerslam.

WWE feels that this is the right time for Orton, and they will be putting a ton of pressure on him by having him defeat Benoit. There is a lot of feeling that this will do great things for Orton and the WWE, as The Rock was also in this sort of situation when he was given the belt, and he was able to grow into his role of being a larger than life superstar because of that opportunity. :thumbdown

[masterthes]

Woah. Let's hope it works the same way. Personally, I think its a bit soon, but overall, I'm not complaining.

[B1ade Runner]

Way too soon. Orton should be fit to carry the title by WrestleMania 22.

[Phantasm]

Originally posted by masterthes
Well, you know that probably Heindenreich will most likely screw Taker out of the title, so I'm not exactly going to be pleased with this match, unless Taker does win the belt, because let's face it, Undertaker=ratings

Please tell me that was sarcasm...

[masterthes]

Well, I'm a big time Taker mark, so there may be some bias on my part :lol

[B1ade Runner]

Another match announced:

World Heavyweight Championship
Chris Benoit (c) vs. Randy Orton

[fafhrd]

This looks to be the early lineup for Summerslam:

World Heavyweight Championship:
Chris Benoit vs. Randy Orton

WWE Championship:
JBL vs. Undertaker

HHH vs. Eugene

Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero

Don't be suprised to see a rematch between Jericho and Battista, and tag title matches between Tajiri/Rhyno vs. La Resistance and London/Kidman vs. Dudleys. Not sure what they're doing with Edge, and the US Title yet.

Fafhrd

[fafhrd]

And for those of you who didnt see Raw, the main event- 60 Minute Iron Man Match for the World Heavyweight title between Benoit and Triple H was classic. My only complaints are the commericals and the extrordinarily annoying Diva Search thing they're doing.

The Battle Royal was really well played, with alot of great highspots and minifeuds in there. Anyone notice that Kane/Matt went at it, Battista/Jericho went at it, Rhyno/Tajiri went at La Resistance, and so on and so forth? That's how it should be. And I loved how it ended, how Orton let Jericho and Edge eliminate Battista, and then how Jericho eliminated Edge out of the blue. Seeing Jericho and Orton go head to head was nice, too, the crowd was totally into it. And it was nice seeing how close both guys came to winning the match. Orton's expressions after winning cinched it for me: Orton's a face now. His days in Evolution are numbered.

And the main event was perfect, both wrestlers taking apart a specific body part, and focusing on it for the entire match. Benoit focused on Triple H's arms and legs, setting up for either the Sharpshooter or the Crossface, while Hunter set up for the Pedigree by taking apart Benoit's chest area. Stories within stories in the match, which was great. And the ending was nice, too, if a little overbooked. I can understand Evolution- minus Orton- coming out to help Hunter, but for Eugene to come out and save Benoit. Nice to see how it all wound down to an at the last second pinfall win for Benoit.

Even if Benoit loses to Orton at Summerslam, this match solidifies Benoit's title run. Personally, I think it's too early to give the title to Orton, and I'd rather see Benoit hold the title until either Survivor Series or WrestleMania 21 next year. But they're not going to give the title to Hunter for now, and Orton represents a nice challenger to the title.

Fafhrd

[masterthes]

That was a great RAW last night. I think we might see Edge/Jericho for the IC title, and maybe another Matt/Kane match at SS. Its pretty obvious Rhyno/Tajiri vs. La Resistance.

[Bordick]

I'm gonna miss SummerSlam.....I got a wedding that same night. I's a gettin' drunk

[B1ade Runner]

I'm still hoping for Michaels/Kane, but it looks like RAW already has two main events.

[Bordick]

Originally posted by B1ade Runner
I'm still hoping for Michaels/Kane, but it looks like RAW already has two main events.
There's always Survivor Series

[masterthes]

Do you think they might make Benoit/Orton a ladder match?

[B1ade Runner]

Originally posted by Bordick
There's always Survivor Series Or Unforgiven. But I hope they wait longer.

[masterthes]

Survivor seems more likely.

[fafhrd]

Originally posted by masterthes
That was a great RAW last night. I think we might see Edge/Jericho for the IC title, and maybe another Matt/Kane match at SS. Its pretty obvious Rhyno/Tajiri vs. La Resistance.

Good call on the Edge/Jericho stuff, that'd be a nice matchup. Plus, they've been waiting to turn Edge heel, and Jericho's been too aimless for a while, with Christian out now. This would be a great time to push both of them, in a feud together.

I can actually see the tag team division being built around Rhyno/Tajiri, La Resistance, and Rosey/Hurricane. Not bad.

Fafhrd

[Phantasm]

Originally posted by PhantaZm Azh
can you say "belie dat, playa"


Was I right, or was I right?

:D

[fafhrd]

Originally posted by PhantaZm Azh
Was I right, or was I right?

:D

I'm diggin' the new playa playa biggie time, belie dat! Teddy Long hit a homer last night. Forceful, to the point, didn't mug for the cameras, and he made sense. Plus he's so good on the mike.

Loved how Booker ended up winning the US Title. I can see them doing a Booker/RVD/Cena feud for the title. Wouldn't suprise me if they have a 3 way match at Summerslam. Nice to see Booker get this type of push- it's been a while in the coming.

Also nice to see Spike getting his due, as well. I can see good stuff coming out of the Spike/Rey storyline. Same for the London/Kidman tag team. It's refreshing to see a new tag team like them take charge.

And it's also great that we DON'T have JBL on SD for at least one week. No one cares about the JBL/Undertaker feud. No one. Case in point: the #1 feud on SD is Angle/Eddie. Even the writers/bookies know this. Sigh.

Fafhrd

[masterthes]

Spike's going to turn on Rey, you know that, right?

[fafhrd]

Originally posted by masterthes
Spike's going to turn on Rey, you know that, right?

Turning him heel would be cool, and it'd finally give Spike a change of character for once. He's always been the goody two shoes guy who gets his ass handed to him 24/7. The Dudleys, as a faction, could ensure that they retain whatever belts they have on them, by interferring in each other's matches.

As much as I like the Dudleys as heels, I think Spike should end up leading them. It'd be something fresh, and a change of pace for the Dudleys, who were getting a bit stale.

Btw, at the same point, I can see Eddie, Rey, Kidman, and London forming a group (ahem, Filthy Animals, part 2, anyone?)

Fafhrd

[Phantasm]

We don't even get Smackdown here.

[masterthes]

I like the idea of Teddy Long as the GM, but I can't help but miss Stephanie on TV. I don't know if in general, the McMahons aren't going to be on TV as much, plus Vince says he's dumped the Mr. McMahon character.

[B1ade Runner]

McMahon ditching his character is a shame, because I was starting to look at him as the Triple H of the Smackdown! roster. No offense, Brock.

[fafhrd]

Originally posted by masterthes
I like the idea of Teddy Long as the GM, but I can't help but miss Stephanie on TV. I don't know if in general, the McMahons aren't going to be on TV as much, plus Vince says he's dumped the Mr. McMahon character.

I hated Steph on tv, PERIOD. All she ever did was write storylines in which she was involved in them one way or the other- to get herself more and more air time. It was to the detriment of the wrestlers, who's airtime got cut because of her babyish antics, and the fans, who largely didn't want to hear her screech every second of the show. Steph's a storyline killer, simply because she overdoes anything she's involved in. And she has the worst ideas.

Vinnie Mac I wouldn't have minded on tv these days, but yeah, he has stopped his Mr. McMahon character. With Austin gone, there's really no need for it. Plus, he's got Bischoff on Raw to basically BE another Mr. McMahon. Vince will still be a vital part of the shows, but probably not take as much of a starring role as he used to.

If any McMahon gets the duke now, it SHOULD be Shane. It's clear that Vince wants to turn the company over to Shane when he's done for.

Fafhrd

[Bordick]

Originally posted by fafhrd
If any McMahon gets the duke now, it SHOULD be Shane. It's clear that Vince wants to turn the company over to Shane when he's done for.

Dolla Dolla! Dolla Dolla! :lol

[B1ade Runner]

Three more matches announced:

Intercontinental Championship:
Edge vs. Batista vs. Chris Jericho

Till Death Do Us Part Match:
Kane vs. Matt Hardy

Triple H vs. Eugene

[masterthes]

So, anyone think Edge/Christian will reunite as a team? It's pretty clear Edge is turning heel and will probably cost Benoit the title at SS

Oh, and if anybody doesn't think this whole Lita/Kane/Matt thing will be another Steph/HHH situation, hasn't been paying attention recently :lol

[Bordick]

Steph's pregnancy was faked to save the marraige.

[masterthes]

Whoops, I didn't mean that situation. I'm talking about when HHH married Steph and she turned heel shortly after.

[Phantasm]

I DO think that E & C will reunite, and I'll love it. I haev always been a big Christian fan, and never really liked "Edge", but they were a great team. Looks like "Edge" needs Christian to carry him again.

No, I don't think "Edge" will have anything to do with the Benoit match, and they haven't alluded to anything that forshadows that he would.

[masterthes]

Well, the beauty of it is I don't think now neither of them need to carry each other anymore now that they are both successful single wrestlers. I think they need to reunite to help the tag division and it'll help the ratings.

[fafhrd]

I have a feeling that Benoit will retain at Summerslam. Orton's promo last night pretty much clinched it for me- he was acting like it was a "done deal" that he'd be the youngest WWE champion ever, forget about Brock, blah blah blah. And then I realized that Brock also won that title at Summerslam. Too obvious, plus, it's not the money match it will be down the line.

The way things are going, Benoit will lose it to Edge down the line.

Fafhrd

[phenotype31]

I think you may be right about Orton (he pisses me off now because I found out we're the same age...and I look nothing like that).

The thing is is that he's pretty much capable of winning the title and having a good run, and even being a good champion now. But being capable doesn't mean that he's ready, and more importantly that the fans are ready. I'd hate for the WWE to give him the title as a novelty (youngest guy EVER), and I'd think he'd hate it too. But then, this is the big one.

So what I say is don't be surprised that Orton wins, but a smart decision would be to let him be a key player in the World Championship "world" along with Triple H, Benoit, Eddie, Angle, and other guys of that level on Smackdown and Raw. Then if the timing's right give him an early run at Wrestlemania or Summerslam next year.

Unless that really starts to falter, they should keep him out of the IC race. Orton should do his time in that phase between IC and World titles.

I also think that by taking it away from Benoit right now would be a shitty thing to do to him. They keep pushing Benoit hard, then pulling the rug out from under him. I say give Benoit more time, and let him be a fighting champion.

[B1ade Runner]

Benoit should drop the title to Triple H at Survivor Series (possibly in a triple-threat match), who could then drop it to Orton at WrestleMania 21.

[Bordick]

That means we'd have to sit through another 6 months of "grr....I'm the best...in this...business...grr." Gets tedious after about 2 months.

[phenotype31]

That'd work for me.

But I gotta say that at this point I like HHH without the title. Last night was the first time in months that I gave a shit about him.

Regal vs. Triple H wasn't much of a match, but that was some intense shit.

[Bordick]

Originally posted by phenotype31
Regal vs. Triple H wasn't much of a match, but that was some intense shit.
Was it just me or was I the only one expecting Regal to turn to the titantron and actually show footage from their tag team days at the beginning of the show?

[phenotype31]

Not really. Woulda been cool because I completely forgot about that.

Regal's a bleeder though. He's the perfect guy to make Triple H look extremely bad ass.

[masterthes]

I definitely think that after SS, Regal and HHH will probably have a good feud. They are both excellent on the mic, and they are pretty intense wrestlers so hopefully, we'll see some good things from these two.

[B1ade Runner]

I would still like to see Regal and Eugene as a tag team.

[masterthes]

Okay, so the first Booker/John Cena best of 5 match will be at SS. Does that mean the other matches will be during the next Smackdowns?

Also, I think they added a tag match for the titles between London/Kidman and the Dudleys.

Also, expect Rey vs. Spike for the title.

If the Dudleys match is added to the card, expect the RAW titles to be defended on Heat.

[B1ade Runner]

That would be a shame. London/Kidman vs. The Dudleyz has taken place twice on Smackdown! already. Rhyno/Tajiri vs. La Resistance only occurred once, and it was pretty much for them to qualify to challenge for the titles at Summerslam.

[B1ade Runner]

Another match added:

6 Man Tag-Team Match
Rey Mysterio, Paul London and Billy Kidman vs. Bubba Ray, D-Von and Spike Dudley

[masterthes]

Kills two birds with one stone then.