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Cogito
11-18-2003, 05:14 AM
This is an odd game, created from a novel called Jennifer Government.
It's a sci-fi book about a future where society is ruled by corporations, and workers take the names of their companies as their surnames (so I assume the main character is a government worker).
The author came up with an unusual idea to promote the book, which was to create the nationstates.net game. I'd normally post this in the book section but hey, I'm really mostly interested in the game so far...
Nationstates.net (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi)
The way the game works is, you pick a name for your state (it has to be unique, of course), select a "title" -- like "Kingdom of," "Queendom of," "The United Federation of," or some more peculiar ones like "The Oppressed people of..." And then you specify a general "type" of society that you think you'd like to create -- socialist, capitalist, dictatorship -- you have a lot of choices...
Then, you will be presented with "issues," along the lines of:
"Our car manufacturing industry is suffering, because cheap foreign cars are outselling our cars.
Representative John Smith argues that import taxes must be levied on foreign cars.
Representative Bob Jones argues that minimum wage laws must be abandoned, so we can compete.
Representative Charles Schzmit argues that we must face it, we are just not effective in the car industry any longer, we need to find other areas"
And then you endorse whatever option you prefer, and your society changes accordingly.
Another "issue" might be elections.
Oh BOY, did I ever have an eye-opener about elections today...
Fer real.
In Belgium, elections are ****ing MANDATORY!
Really! You HAVE to freaking vote! And if you live abroad, like a woman I spoke to today -- well, she was kinda pissed off, because she had to pay $8 to send her vote back to Belgium, cos she is freaking REQUIRED to vote, even if she's lived in the US for the last 20 years.
Well, this "issue" that came up was very simple:
"Voting should be mandatory -- or else, it isn't a democracy!
John Smith argues that mandatory voting is like death penalty for suicide, it makes no sense at all.
Joe-Bob Schoemacker says this sounds just dandy, this is great.
Jimmy Hussein, who is your brother, argues that voting wastes too much time -- it'd be much more efficient if we just decide what's the best thing to do, and do it."
Etc.
Well that was the game.
But bugger me sideways, Belgium has FORCED voting?!?! That's NUTS! Forced voting, that's for the USSR and Iraq, dude. This is crazy -- a democracy that forces you to vote?
Well hoy come play nationstates.net with me.
My nation is called DZWONKA and I'm roleplaying as an inarticulate, strange-speaking (hey, it's a small nation, I don't think we can afford to send really edumacated representatives to the UN yet!) people who mostly rattle on about how great Dzwonka is, and how our national animal -- the beautiful Musk ox -- roam our lush forests, and what a great place it is: mostly left-leaning, political freedom, civil liberties nation kinda deal.
Some of the categories for nations (which I don't think are picked from a drop-down list, but rather assigned by the UN, depending on your decisions):
Psychotic Dictatorship
Left-wing Utopia
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise
Iron Fist Consumerists
Corporate Police State
Father Knows Best State
Authoritarian Democracy (I guess this lot might demand you'd vote!)
Oh and you gotta endorse me. Check it out...
Join the UN.
And then, stay in the Pacific region, until you figure out where you want to go -- new nations start there, and I am still there.
I received a few telegrams from other nations in other regions, asking me to join them, but I'm just hanging out, getting my feelers on what's going on -- I answer telegrams in my half-telligble Dzwonkaish English, and praise the Musk ox a lot -- and greet people by saying "Ank," of course, which people in Dzwonka are prone to do.
I'll endorse you, of course -- I'm not sure if you can endorse multiple nations, but if I can, of course, I'll do that. But I'm hoping to gain two endorsements which will allow me to submit an issue to the UN. That will bring Dzwonka onto the stage of world politics, and let everyone know how great Musk oxen are.
Ank!
crappertay
11-18-2003, 05:52 AM
Welcome to;
The Rogue Nation of Tayside
The Rogue Nation of Tayside is a tiny, economically powerful nation, notable for its absence of drug laws. Its compassionate, hard-working population of 5 million enjoy some of the most opulent lifestyles in the region, unless they are unemployed or working-class, in which case they are variously starving to death or crippled by easily preventable diseases.
The tiny government is effectively ruled by the Department of Commerce, with areas such as Law & Order and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. Income tax is unheard of. A robust private sector is led by the Gambling, Automobile Manufacturing, and Door-to-door Insurance Sales industries.
Crime is a major problem, probably because of the country's utter lack of prisons. Tayside's national animal is the ned and its currency is the chib.
Our lower class people have a tendancy to wear Burberry pattern clothes with Adiddas tracksuits and everyone speaks in "The Broons" style Scots.
crappertay
11-18-2003, 06:51 AM
Identity crisis :blat
I played it for awhile at F&E but it became repetitive...
I might be willing to play again as long as I'm a tyrant. :lol
<b>The Sultanate of Matt UGA,</b> is a tiny, economically powerful nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.
The small government concentrates mainly on Law & Order, although Commerce and Education are on the agenda. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 6%. A large private sector is led by the Arms Manufacturing, Uranium Mining, and Trout Farming industries.
Crime is a problem. Matt UGA's national animal is the <b>trouser snake</b>, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the <b>thong bikinis</b>.
Okay... I have founded a new region so we can all live together in perfect harmony.
So change your region to Cinema Blend. password filmhobbit
Also in settings..you can choose to have more or less issues per day.
I'm in.
<B>The Grand Duchy of FilmHobbitdom</B>
"Doing it fast, safe, and right."
UN Category: Left-Leaning College State
Civil Rights: Superb Economy: Strong Political Freedoms: Average
Location: The North Pacific
The Grand Duchy of FilmHobbitdom is a tiny, socially progressive nation, remarkable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, hard-working population of 5 million enjoy extensive civil freedoms, particularly in social issues, while business tends to be more regulated.
The medium-sized, liberal government is mainly concerned with Law & Order, although Education and Healthcare are secondary priorities. The average income tax rate is 12%. A robust private sector is led by the Soda Sales, Trout Farming, and Basket Weaving industries.
Crime is a problem. FilmHobbitdom's national animal is the pushmepullu and its currency is the lupin.
Taln Hess
11-18-2003, 11:12 AM
The Federation of Random Persons
"You are one of us.. you just don't know it yet."
UN Category: Democratic Socialists
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Struggling
Political Freedoms: Excellent
The Federation of Random Persons is a tiny, socially progressive nation, remarkable for its strong anti-business politics. Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 5 million are fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality; they tend to view other, more capitalist countries as somewhat immoral and corrupt.
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it devotes most of its attentions to Law & Order, with areas such as Defence and Social Welfare receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 50%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Cheese Exports.
Crime is relatively low, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Random Persons's national animal is the black rhino, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the credit.
Brian
11-18-2003, 07:43 PM
The Republic of Squarepusher
"At least we're not Mississippi "
UN Category: Democratic Socialists
Civil Rights: Good Economy: Reasonable Political Freedoms: Excellent
The Republic of Squarepusher is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, notable for its burgeoning winter ski bunny population. Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 5 million are fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality; they tend to view other, more capitalist countries as somewhat immoral and corrupt.
The large government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Education, and Healthcare. The average income tax rate is 27%, but much higher for the wealthy. A large private sector is led by the Basket Weaving, Door-to-door Insurance Sales, and Pizza Delivery industries.
Crime is moderate. Squarepusher's national animal is the winter ski bunny , which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the guilders.
Valkary
11-18-2003, 09:16 PM
How do you change your region?
UN Category: Democratic Socialists
Civil Rights: Good Economy: Fragile Political Freedoms: Very Good
Location: the South Pacific
The Republic of Svenorama is a tiny, safe nation, notable for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 5 million are fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality; they tend to view other, more capitalist countries as somewhat immoral and corrupt.
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Social Welfare, Healthcare, and Education. The average income tax rate is 49%, but much higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Retail.
Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown. Svenorama's national animal is the cat, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the sven.
crappertay
11-18-2003, 09:17 PM
Click on the region you are currently in (on the menu bar) usually "The Pacific" or similar.
On the region page there should be a link (very small) which says "Change region" or move or similar. Click on that and it'll let you type in where you want to go...
Valkary
11-18-2003, 09:27 PM
btw if you come to svenorama and want to be a citizen your ass is required to vote.
I think it's a great idea. You want to benifits of living in a society? then you are REQUIRED to participate.
So far I LIKE this game.
Cogito
11-18-2003, 10:19 PM
I was wondering which direction Valkary's country would head off for:
Left-wing Utopia, Scandinavian Liberal Paradise, or perhaps Left-Leaning College State, but I see he's heading off to a Iron Fist Socialist state!
The People's Republic of Mellmack is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, notable for its strong anti-business politics. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 5 million are ruled without fear or favor by a psychotic dictator, who outlaws just about everything and refers to the populace as "my little playthings."
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is effectively ruled by the Department of Law & Order, with areas such as Religion & Spirituality and Social Welfare receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 57%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Arms Manufacturing.
Crime -- especially youth-related -- is well under control, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Mellmack's national animal is the cat, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the furball.
Cogito
11-19-2003, 12:46 AM
Jeepers -- every state is a leftish one, except the two governed from Scotland and Holland? Hey this is cool -- this really IS roleplaying:)
NotSoSecretAgent
11-19-2003, 01:06 AM
The Democratic States of Retahd is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its devotion to social welfare. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 5 million enjoy extensive civil rights and enjoy a level social equality free of the usual accompanying government corruption.
The government -- a sprawling, bureaucracy-choked, socially-minded morass -- devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Law & Order and Defence receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 39%, but much higher for the wealthy. A small private sector is dominated by the Retail industry.
Crime is relatively low. Retahd's national animal is the marmot, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the ticket stub.
Cogito
11-19-2003, 04:33 AM
Okay, now I know I feel like a dolt for laughing at this, but I just happened to check out this state called The Sultanate of Matt UGA and I found out that it's national animal was "the Trouser Snake, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the thong bikinis." wahaha!
The sad part about it is, I wanted to create a crazy, irreverent, tree-hugging hippie state... But when I was faced with a decision about tarrifs on imported cars that were killing my automobile industry, I couldn't go the full lefty way and raise import taxes. Certainly, it would make no point, to just go the full righty way and just abolish minimum wages, so I picked the middle road...
And then I picked the middle road again, when it came to plutonium mining -- I mean, I LOVE the environment, I love national parks, and suchlike, damnit, I think that stuff HAS to be protected -- I really do. But still, I thought, hey, this is gonna be a looney lefty hippy, tree-hugging nutcase state, we gotta have SOME income, right? So if some nasty big state wants to kill another big nasty state -- or a small nasty state, like one that ain't looney lefty hippy tree-hugging, well, it's just the bad guys killing the bad guys, so hey -- we're the good guys, damnit, my beloved people might need a new bong or something! So I picked the middle road there too, and allowed a LITTLE BIT OF URANIUM mining!
Goddamnit, now look at Dzwonka! "renowned for it's barren lands" -- oh ****! Now that was the ONE thing I didn't want to happen! Crap!!~
But then again, I ain't in the same trouble Matt is -- it's like that Bad Santa movie, dude...
Matt's trouser snake is on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation -- didya make love to a woman who wasn't clean? :)
Those bike lovin hippies tried to ban cars so I told them... NO BIKES FOR YOU! bwahahahaha!
Taln Hess
11-19-2003, 08:48 AM
I just approved same sex marriages... it was better then making divorce illegal or forcing gestures of love... but I'm dreading what the result from this will be.
GreenTShirt
11-19-2003, 09:57 AM
The Rogue Nation of Falonesia
"To Each His Own Within Reason"
UN Category: Left-wing Utopia
Civil Rights: Excellent Economy: Fragile Political Freedoms: Superb
Location: The East Pacific
The Rogue Nation of Falonesia is a tiny, safe nation, renowned for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 5 million are free to do what they want with their own bodies, and vote for whoever they like in elections; if they go into business, however, they are regulated to within an inch of their lives.
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Religion & Spirituality, Healthcare, and Social Welfare. The average income tax rate is 57%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Trout Farming.
Crime is well under control, thanks to a well-funded police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Falonesia's national animal is the two headed dragon, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the yak.
Valkary
11-19-2003, 12:23 PM
ok cogs, I endorsed you, but I better see you voting for lots of proposals I like. BTW I am considering declaring war on mellmak. His injustices against cats will NOT go unpunished.
Signed
Valkary's Cat,
Sven
Dictator for life, Svenorama
Crazy Old Cogs must be stopped! Endorse ME!!
crappertay
11-19-2003, 12:57 PM
Tayside - Benevolent Dictatorship
Haha.
How do you endorse someone?
you and the person you want to endorse must be members of the UN. But being that i'm a libertarian leaning towards conservative... I should quit the UN and tell them to kiss my arse. :lol
Keep that up and my liberal state will be forced to withdraw it's endorsement!
Cogito
11-19-2003, 02:46 PM
I endorsed ya right back, Valkary -- I endorsed everyone with a UN tag, mind you. Just waiting fer one more endorsement, so I can lodge an official thingie with the UN now, har har.
Dzwonka might not be too keen on war, mind you. It's clearly a left-leaning state, but its strongest driving force is really love of the environment and simple things, and peace -- and most of all, it ain't too smart. And it's fairly irreverent (like, I guess allowing uranium mining, that was probably not too smart).
Cogito
11-20-2003, 03:08 AM
Goddamnit, my fascist state has been labeled an "Iron Fist Consumerists" state by the UN, whereas my banana-republic/hippy-state has been labelled a "Tyranny by Majority" -- this nation-building is tricky stuff, no wonder the Shrubbery is having problems.
This is a real strange game, it wants me to make a choice between 3 positions of which I support neither.. What happens if I dismiss an issue? And what does this game do other then present me two issues a day? (no, I didn't read the thread or the instructions on the site)
Cogito
11-20-2003, 06:48 AM
Damn dude, I'm way too caught up on the power trip of nation building to even consider that -- I mean, hell, what's the point of playing it, if you're just gonna dismiss it? Perhaps just to test the game engine? I dunnu.
The thing is, none of the options make any sense.
First they tell you there is some kind of environment protest against cars, then they let you choose between:
1) banning all cars
2) banning all protests
3) government fund car manufacturers!?
It makes no sense.
I just went with ban all cars because it was the most radical thing to do. I already have the dictator reputation anyway for not allowing the idiot masses to make decisions for my country. Democracy is overrated.
This inoffensive centrist democracy crap has got to go.
TIME TO START FLOGGING CITIZENS!
Cogito
11-21-2003, 05:21 AM
Dzwonka proposal to ACKNOWLEDGE NATURE BEAUTY (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95540) on nationstates.net's message-board.
ooc, fcourse, a horse.
I got two delegates to recognize the proposal! The way it works is, a certain percentage (a quite small one) of the Delegates of UN (the leaders of the region, which in our case is the Hobbit -- which CURIOUSLY ENOUGH has not yet endorsed poor Dzwonka's proposal -- shame, shame!) have to recognize it -- and only then will it be allowed to go to a vote.
Now cmon Hobb!
Edit: doh, forgot to include the original Bolinas proposal that I ripped off for this thing... It's pretty funny.
Odd, Rambling Ode Passed Into Law
Thu Nov 6, 7:46 AM ET Add Oddly Enough - Reuters to My Yahoo!
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Voters in the rugged independent California coastal town of Bolinas approved a ballot measure on Tuesday that celebrates the joys of drinking water from a lake, liking bears and eating blueberries.
But while 67 percent of voters in the town north of San Francisco gave their backing to a rambling ode to nature that also disavows hatred of hotels and motorboats, many said they had no idea what "Measure G" really means.
Resolutions and initiatives are common in California politics, but even by state standards the Bolinas measure was unusually rambling and obscure.
The measure said the Bolinas Community Public Utility District should adopt the following language:
"Vote for Bolinas to be a socially acknowledged nature-loving town because to like to drink the water out of the lakes to like to eat the blueberries to like the bears is not hatred to hotels and motor boats. Dakar. Temporary and way to save life, skunks and foxes (airplanes to go over the ocean) and to make it beautiful."
What does it all mean?
"You must be stupid," said a man who answered the phone at the home of Jane Blethen, who authored the language. "It means that we are nature-loving people."
He hung up when asked if the measure might inadvertently generate publicity they were seeking to avoid.
Philip Buchanan, district manager of the Bolinas Community Public Utility District which oversees the local pipes, sewage and other services, was not amused by the publicity either.
"A lot of people went along with it to humor (Blethen)," he said. "I think it trivializes the election but I've been made to feel like the Grinch."
Valkary
11-21-2003, 04:27 PM
And WHO is the #1 state in Cinerama?
Svenorama, THAT's who.
Mellmak better straighten up and fly right. Catlovers unite!
Signed,
Sven
Dictator for life of Svenorama and Valkary's Cat
Valkary
11-21-2003, 04:51 PM
Hobbiton has voted agains recognizing worldwide trade unions.
We need a UN Delegate who is more in tune with the political ideologies of Cinerama.
Change your vote hobbes or there will be.... trouble.
Oh... bring it on!
I have the full backing of Matt UGA and that country full of drunken Scottmen. You don't want me to let the drunken Scottmen loose on yah. You never know when they'll cut loose and whip off their kilts.
The Reel Yapper
11-21-2003, 05:14 PM
Gilliamsven in the HOUSE....
The Republic of Gilliamsven is a tiny, socially progressive nation, remarkable for its absence of drug laws. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 5 million love a good election, and the government gives them plenty of them. Universities tend to be full of students debating the merits of various civil and political rights, while businesses are tightly regulated and the wealthy viewed with suspicion.
The large government juggles the competing demands of Healthcare, Social Welfare, and Education. The average income tax rate is 26%, but much higher for the wealthy. A very small private sector is dominated by the Beef-Based Agriculture industry.
Crime is moderate, and the police force struggles against a lack of funding and a high mortality rate. Gilliamsven's national animal is the fisher king, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the lowery.
Wiggum
11-21-2003, 05:44 PM
"I smoke two joints in the morning....."
The Republic of Pipesweed is a tiny, pleasant nation, notable for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.
The small government juggles the competing demands of Religion & Spirituality, Law & Order, and Commerce. The average income tax rate is 9%. A robust private sector is led by the Gambling, Soda Sales, and Uranium Mining industries.
Crime is a serious problem, and the police force struggles against a lack of funding and a high mortality rate. Pipesweed's national animal is the hooptie and its currency is the bling.
Cogito
11-21-2003, 08:05 PM
Dzwonka is a messed-up hippy-land. Or, that's what I'm trying to create. So it can only endorse leftish or centrist type gubments, and will vote in that way. Dzwonka is part of the UN purely for the protection that it gives, but also hopes to receive some benefits, cos it's an ill-governed, unedumacated banana-republic.
My dictatorship Voxton ain't a member of UN, of course (which is good, cos you're only supposed to have one member per person -- even if you may have multiple nations).
crappertay
11-21-2003, 08:09 PM
Not enough happens on this game :\
YES!! I am now a Capitalist Paradise!
WOOO HOOOO
Bluntchop
11-21-2003, 10:53 PM
The Colony of Bawitdaba
"We are evil and proud"
UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Civil Rights: Very Good Economy: Very Strong Political Freedoms: Very Good
Location: The North Pacific
The Colony of Bawitdaba is a tiny, economically powerful nation, remarkable for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.
The small government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Education, and Healthcare. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 8%. A healthy private sector is led by the Basket Weaving industry, followed by Book Publishing and Woodchip Exports.
Crime is moderate. Bawitdaba's national animal is the lobster, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the euro.
crappertay
11-22-2003, 02:06 PM
My Benevolent Dictatorship is finally paying off (just call me Emperor Ming). I just jumped from last place to third in the Cinema Blend rankings...
Despite my belief that The UN will attempt to impose capatailist thoughts upon the tiny nation of Mallmack, I have submitted my UN application so that I may remove the capatalist dogs of FilmHobbitdom from their seat of power.
The Reel Yapper
11-22-2003, 05:39 PM
As have I, brotha Link. As have I.
crappertay
11-23-2003, 07:33 AM
Ank! Dzwonka have seized control of UN Delgation.
Whoa...this mandatory Union bill is the most binding potentially harmful piece of legislation EVER!
I'll be resigning from the UN as soon as it goes into effect so that I can produce goods without the high costs.
Outrageous and our UN Delegate voted for it!!!! DOWN WITH COGS! :)
If this passes I'll start calling him Mein Fuhrer
Cogito
11-23-2003, 04:43 PM
Wahaha, Ank, indeed!
Surely, it's a great day that Dzwonka has become the UN delegate?
It's kinda like the South Park kids electing Timmy as their class president.
I intentionally wanted Dzwonka to be a loopy, looney, hippy, leftie, but messed-up, confused banana-state -- I mean, a bunch of people who had very good intentions, and were nice people, with left-leaning political views, tree-huggers and suchlike, but basically fairly stupid and/or naive. So I ended up picking the middle ground on a few decisions, like in particular, uranium-mining...
I mean, that was NOT what I should have done, cos the landscape became barren, and that was not what I intended -- but it kinda played into character, because, well, Dzwonkans are supposed to be idiots/naive, right?
The only thing was, the country was marked as a conservative democracy, or a consumerist state by the UN. This, clearly wasn't going the way I wanted. The place was supposed to be left-leaning. But after a while, I got on the right road -- so now, it's a New York Times Democracy, which I figure is fairly leftish...
I saw that Tay's state was strictly right-wing, so it was in character for Dzwonka to not support it -- Dzwonka could really only support center or leftish states, I figure. At the time I looked around, I think everyone were center or left -- except for the Scotsman and the dude in Holland, which I think is a sign that people really are roleplaying, uh?
Well, not Valkary, of course :)... And not Matt either, I guess... And not Hobbit, hm...
i'm role playing in certain cases but that union thing is the death of civilization. :lol
I'm not sure in what extend I am roleplaying, I really try to make the choices that match my views only I'm much more of an extremist than would be possible in real life.
Yeah, I'm doing what Tick is, and making choices that reflect my views... just because I'm curious to see what will happen if I do that.
well the game has inherant biases in the choices though. You can definitely see agendas in some of the choices.
Oh sure!
Actually, I was thinking of starting a second country just to do what Cogs is, roleplay it as some mad dictator or something... or maybe as an uber treehugger.
That's cool :)
Cogito
11-24-2003, 08:14 PM
I have Dzwonka, the confused leftie banana republic, Voxton the nazi-ish dictatorship (which I ran into trouble with, when I had to decide whether to allow neo-nazis to demonstrate -- damnit, of COURSE I wanted them to demonstrate, if _I_ am a damn nazi, but if I do that, the game will think of me as a first amendment free speech nice guy, so I had to vote against it, dagnabbit) -- and then I actually have a third one, that I didn't enter into the Cinema area at all, that I'm trying to play as a religious state, like some kinda papacy...
Cogito
11-25-2003, 03:51 AM
Oh this is just dreadful -- Tay is moving to try take control of the UN delegate position now!
I mean, Dzwonka getting ahold of it was just a random accident of some bizarre sorts -- that country is clearly not equipped to handle that responsibility (but damnit, it is trying its best, ya know, poor ****ed-up banana republic that it is, it's like Frodo, damnit -- rising to the occasion!), but mein gott in himmel, we cain't have the rogue nation of Tayside grab the position -- IT'S A POLICE STATE, fer Pete's sakes!
Defcon 3, seal the hatches!
What the... somehow my nation has become extremely racist despite my recent liberal policies!
Must be this damn UN regulation forcing Unions down our throats.
Must stop skinheads!
Oh, I had that too. TV show question eh? I still think I answered right but oh well, I'm already a dictator, what's a little additional racism?
Originally posted by The Tick
Oh, I had that too. TV show question eh? I still think I answered right but oh well, I'm already a dictator, what's a little additional racism?
No, I never got a TV show question, but my description tells me that the most popular TV show in the country is an extremely racist television show.
I got that same result after the tv show question. That's odd though.
crappertay
11-25-2003, 04:34 PM
Just banned bicycles and marijuana :D
Down with civil rights. Equality for all except the corporations.
Cogito
11-25-2003, 04:39 PM
Ach du lieber, der kilted politzei-nation haff auf der region kontroll taken!
crappertay
11-25-2003, 04:41 PM
Musk Oxen ist ein delicatzei.
The Empire of Dexstan in Cinema Blend region. Iron Fist Consumerists.
this ought to be fun hehe, not enough despots
The Republic of Kiranqa
Motto: "Evil Axis My Ass"
UN Category: Psychotic Dictatorship
Civil Rights: Outlawed
Economy: Struggling
Political Freedoms: Outlawed
The Republic of Kiranqa is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its punitive income tax rates. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 5 million are ruled without fear or favor by a psychotic dictator, who outlaws just about everything and refers to the populace as "my little playthings."
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, moralistic, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is effectively ruled by the Department of Law & Order, with areas such as Social Welfare and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 54%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Arms Manufacturing.
Crime -- especially youth-related -- is well under control, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Kiranqa's national animal is the rat, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the counterfit us dollars.
Wiggum
11-26-2003, 02:55 PM
Welcome Dex!
"For too long, our bodies have been trapped in these prisons of cotton and polyester!" yelled protester Buy Wong, while apparently developing a nasty case of sunburn. "We must repeal the puritanical laws that make public nudity a crime. My body--my choice to dangle!"
Friends of yours hobbit? :moon :blat
For the record I made them put their clothes back on.
Ranthium
11-30-2003, 09:37 PM
Bah,
I just got asked if I think voting should be mandatory....
For the 2nd time!!!! Oh well, i guess my citizens will still be forced to vote... again...
masterthes
12-01-2003, 02:23 PM
This could be fun :lol
The Empire of Theslandia
"Don't bother me about your problems"
UN Category: Corporate Bordello
Civil Rights: Average Economy: Very Strong Political Freedoms: Excellent
Location: the West Pacific
The Empire of Theslandia is a tiny, economically powerful nation, remarkable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million are effectively ruled by a group of massive corporations, who run for political office and provide their well-off citizens with world-class goods and services. Their poorer citizens, however, are mostly starving to death while being urged to go out and get real jobs. The populace has reasonably extensive civil rights, although these are mostly aimed at allowing them to buy whatever they like.
The small government devotes most of its attentions to Law & Order, with areas such as Social Welfare and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 4%. A large private sector is led by the Information Technology industry, followed by Automobile Manufacturing and Cheese Exports.
Crime is a major problem. Theslandia's national animal is the kangaroo and its currency is the dollar.
And here was my first issue
"Compulsory voting makes about as much as sense as having the death penalty for attempted suicide," says civil rights activist Aaron Spirit. "You can't force people to be free! You can only give them the choice. Besides, if all those derelicts who can't be bothered to get off their ass once every few years voted, who would they elect? I shudder to think."
This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.
My 2nd country is :
The Holy Empire of GeorgeLucasLand
"I have no time for MOTTOS!"
UN Category: Father Knows Best State
Civil Rights: Below Average
Economy: Good Political
Freedoms: Outlawed
Location: Cinema Blend
The Holy Empire of GeorgeLucasLand is a small, pleasant nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its compassionate, hard-working, cynical population of 14 million are ruled by a mostly-benevolent dictator, who grants the populace the freedom to live their own lives but watches carefully for anyone to slip up.
The government -- a sprawling, bureaucracy-choked, corrupt morass -- is effectively ruled by the Department of Defence, with areas such as Religion & Spirituality and Healthcare receiving almost no funds by comparison. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 30%. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Uranium Mining.
The country's famous rainforests are being bulldozed by the mining industry, employers may fire workers without giving any reason, the government is reigning in public spending, and gambling is outlawed. Crime is a problem, probably because of the country's utter lack of prisons. GeorgeLucasLand's national animal is the leprechaun, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the eternal soul.
GeorgeLucasLand is ranked 12th in the region and 38,062nd in the world for Largest Cheese Export Sector.
fafhrd
12-01-2003, 03:08 PM
I'm the Republic of the Faffy.
All hail the Faf! :lol
Fafhrd
masterthes
12-01-2003, 03:15 PM
Well, I have joined the region of cinema blend. Woohoo. The Pacific was way too hot. :lol
Ranthium
12-06-2003, 09:15 PM
I was wondering where you went to look at the internal policies that each country has decided upon. Tay's comment on how he's the only nation to be consistent with his policies has perked my curiosity about this.
Cogito
12-07-2003, 05:13 AM
Tay is doing really good. He has managed to keep his right-wing police state status going, but more importantly, has kept his UN membership, and has gotten lots of support from other states -- which is a feat, cos nearly every other state in the region is a lefty state (including mine).
Many states seem to have gone against their initial intentions -- like, they have mottos that totally contradict their UN evaluation, ala "Whoa dude, chill out like, man.. Heh, is that a ferret?" / "Corporate Police State."
It's hard to be consistent. I've got a few states going, trying to steer 'em into dictatorship or theocracies, or hippy paradises, but it's hard to get things going the way you want them to go -- this nation building thang ain't easy.
Not all nations are being played entirely in good faith, mind you -- there are consistent alliances between nations that would normally be political opposites -- and a great deal of Musk ox hatred being stirred up. I have a feeling a UN delegate coup is coming up...
It isn't so much Musk Ox hatred as Musk Ox hunger. They are Sooooo tasty. Hand em over!!
We in FilmHobbitdom would eat our Pushmepullus but they tend to be kinda gamey and no one wants them.
Damn Dzwonka veggies!
I'd like to point out that my slogan "Doing it safe, fast, and right" is still appropriate. We are doing it. :lol (can you believe that is actually my company's slogan? Innuendo jokes among the employees abound)
But I'm not trying to be anything, I'm just voting my conscience and seeing what happens.
I think I'm pretty consequent in my decisions. And my motto works with all policies so as far as that theory goes, I'm always doing the right thing.
Brian
12-07-2003, 01:37 PM
My second nation:
The Republic of Adecco is a tiny, economically powerful nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-working, cynical population of 5 million are rabid consumers, partly through choice and partly because the government tells them to and dissenters tend to vanish from their homes at night.
There is no government in the normal sense the word; however, a small group of community-minded, pro-business individuals juggles the competing demands of Commerce, Defence, and Law & Order. Income tax is unheard of. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Arms Manufacturing, Retail, and Basket Weaving industries.
Crime is a serious problem, probably because of the country's utter lack of prisons. Adecco's national animal is the soul-robbing demon, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the centennial.
Cogito
12-07-2003, 01:42 PM
Great avatar, Tripolie!
Brian
12-07-2003, 09:09 PM
Great movie
Taln Hess
12-09-2003, 05:33 PM
I'm pissed about an issue that rose up.
A cult group wants to sacrifice humans. My choices:
Let them sacrifice humans - solving the homeless problem.
Let them have the first born of every family to sacrifice.
Outlaw the group.
Attempt to rehabilitate the group.
There isn't a choice there that works for my countries policies. I can't just tell them "no" with any of the choices there. The closest to telling them "no" is to outlaw the group, which goes against their civil rights. I don't think the group is wrong, just the practice of human sacrifice.
Dammit... I've had to dismiss the issue, which really sucks because now there will be non-government sanctioned sacrifices going on in my country just because the yahoo who wrote the issue didn't give me a "no" option. :/
I had one or two issues like that too that realy irked me Taln.
I hate dismissing them.
WTF is up with my country being against public nudity? Oh wait, we have shame. :lol
I wasn't against public nudity; just ugly people being nude.
crappertay
12-09-2003, 06:09 PM
I am second most Nudest country :lol
Only those loin cloth wearing cannibal Dzwonkans are more nude!
Cogito
12-09-2003, 08:12 PM
There's absolutely, positively, nearly no canibalism in the Dzwonkan Navy!
And nope, there ain't no loincloths either -- mandatory nudeness, thank you.
Dzwonka is a freakin' paradise, dude.
crappertay
12-10-2003, 02:12 PM
My latest outstanding issue;
People Request Not So Much Dictatorship, If That's All Right
:lol
masterthes
12-10-2003, 03:12 PM
I recently had a divorce issue. One was make divorce illegal, make it mandatory for couples to say darling at least once or day, or ban same sex marriages. I dismissed it so we'll see what happens tomorrow.
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