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Old 01-07-2006, 01:50 PM   #1
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Hoot- discuss it!

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A young boy moves to Florida and encounters a series of mysteries while trying to save a group of endangered owls.

Genres: Comedy, Kids/Family, Thriller and Adaptation
Release Date: April 21st, 2006 (wide)
MPAA Rating: Not Rated
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Starring: Logan Lerman, Brie Larson, Luke Wilson, Cody Linley, Eric Phillips
Directed by: Wil Shriner
Produced by: Jimmy Buffett (II), Frank Marshall, Kevin Reidy
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Old 02-22-2006, 09:33 AM   #3
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What a crock. This movie is probably completely unrealistic.

Government regulations over endangered animal protection is alive and well. Just a few years ago a major construction project at NMSU was on hold for several months until a burrowing owl that had nested in the area had hatched their eggs. They weren't even in the construction area, just close enough to be impacted. Didn't want all that awful construction equipment noise disturbing them.

New house development regularly gets shut down for the same reason. The owls don't need protection from the kids. Might as well send the kiddos down to the Amazon for a live action version of Ferngully 4.
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Old 02-22-2006, 09:56 AM   #4
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Penn & Teller did a rather enlightening Bullshit episode on this subject.

The data they gathered showed rather convincingly that the endangered species act has in fact never saved the life of a single species.

They contrasted that with the story of a handicapped woman who bought a piece of land to build her first house, and when she started to build was told she couldn't because a protected bird lived on her property. She then couldn't sell the property because no one wants it, so she now lives at a friend's house and showers with a hose in their back yard while she pays for a piece of land she can never use.

Meanwhile, the "protected" bird on her piece of property was protected for no reason, it was so numerous in the state it was becoming a pest.

It's noble to want to protect endangered animals, but I'm not convinced that it always works out properly.
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Old 02-22-2006, 10:04 AM   #5
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I saw that Bullshit! episode too. It's quite frustrating to imagine that such a thing can happen and, not only that, but movies are made to further it.
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Old 02-22-2006, 10:25 AM   #6
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Penn & Teller did a rather enlightening Bullshit episode on this subject.

The data they gathered showed rather convincingly that the endangered species act has in fact never saved the life of a single species.

They contrasted that with the story of a handicapped woman who bought a piece of land to build her first house, and when she started to build was told she couldn't because a protected bird lived on her property. She then couldn't sell the property because no one wants it, so she now lives at a friend's house and showers with a hose in their back yard while she pays for a piece of land she can never use.

Meanwhile, the "protected" bird on her piece of property was protected for no reason, it was so numerous in the state it was becoming a pest.

It's noble to want to protect endangered animals, but I'm not convinced that it always works out properly.
I'm not sure I'm ready to believe the act has NEVER done any good, but there's definitely a point where a line needs to be drawn between good intentions and blind arrogance.
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I was surprised by it too, but the facts were rather convincing.

There were a couple of species on the list that HAD been saved, but when examined closely the data indicated that it wasn't the endangered species act that saved them.
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Old 02-22-2006, 10:46 AM   #8
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I suppose this movie could do some good in a backwards sense then. Maybe if kids of this generation watch enough movies like this combined with Penn & Teller's data they could repeal the law when they're running the show and do things the right way.

Probably not, but I'm trying to be positive today. How am I doing?
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Old 02-22-2006, 10:55 AM   #9
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Just fine.

The most disheartening thing about that P&T episode was that it seemed that the Endangered Species Act only applied to individuals without money and power. Big corporations just go in, throw some money and lawyers around, and get what they want regardless of whatever protected species is in their way. Individuals are however, screwed.
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Old 04-18-2006, 12:50 AM   #10
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Oh quick before I sleep tonight. From last week, was enjoyable, thought it was well done. Extra live podcast with some cast members and the book author was shown after... Movie is about this kid who moved to Florida (from other places because of fathers business). Being "new" in the school he meets some people but also deals with a bully, and has to cope with the patrol person. One day he meets a brother of a girl from the school, together they try to prevent the owls from being harmed by the bad people. 3/5

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Old 04-18-2006, 07:35 AM   #11
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Owls are the most fantastic birds...a while back we had 2 land on our balcony and do that meditation thing they do, like a couple of monks.

I don't know anything about the Endangered Species Act.

But yesterday we were looking at a bunch of Tassie Devils, Greater Bilbys, Kangaroos (yet again), Wombats etc and the sat in on a Birds of Prey show.

There was this amazing Hawk Owl that was part of the show. But as the guy pointed out, they live in hollow trees. If we keep chopping down trees at the rate we are, pretty soon they'll be wiped from the face of the planet.

Certainly it makes me worry about the amount of paper I waste and drafts I do, and makes me think about recycling paper. And try not to **** up simple letters.

Also looking forward to March of the Penguins.
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:35 AM   #12
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There was this amazing Hawk Owl that was part of the show. But as the guy pointed out, they live in hollow trees. If we keep chopping down trees at the rate we are, pretty soon they'll be wiped from the face of the planet.
Actually, that's not going to wipe them out. They'll either adapt to losing trees (which btw, isn't really happening. Foresters replant trees) or they'll die out. If they die out, well, Darwin wins out.

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Old 04-18-2006, 12:41 PM   #13
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Hoot's soundtrack came out today. Jimmy Buffett is featured. Hub/CB Main synergy in full effect.
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yea jimmy buffet sang a song but I left at that part
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Old 04-18-2006, 06:02 PM   #15
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Isn't this by the guy who wrote Holes? I see it bombing totally
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Old 04-18-2006, 06:17 PM   #16
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If they die out, well, Darwin wins out.

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I most respectfully disagree with this concept.

There's a part of the Melbourne museum that has pictures / effigies etc of all the animals that have become exinct, and it's a sad part of the museum. No prizes for guessing who is responsible for this.
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Well, it was better than I expected and had a nice angle on the whole environmental aspect. However, it's still full of the kinds of vigilante crap that kids really don't need.

Also, it features the first time I've ever seen "damn" dubbed in with "darn". It was a good call, but one of the worst dub over jobs ever.
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Isn't this by the guy who wrote Holes? I see it bombing totally
No, it's written by the same guy who wrote Striptease.

Seriously.

I just read this book as part of my adolescent literature course. He's an interesting author, really jaded towards Hollywood after striptease was made. It's only because of Buffet and Shriner that he was willing to let Hoot be made.
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