Rate/Discuss: Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. . .
It is a dark time for the Rebellion. Although the Death Star has been destroyed, Imperial troops have driven the Rebel forces from their hidden base and pursued them across the galaxy. Evading the dreaded Imperial Starfleet, a group of freedom fighters led by Luke Skywalker has established a new secret base on the remote ice world of Hoth. The evil lord Darth Vader, obsessed with finding young Skywalker, has dispatched thousands of remote probes into the far reaches of space...
Directed by Irvin Kirshner
Starring Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, Alec Guiness, Mark Hammil, Frank Oz and Billy Dee Williams
Winner for Best Sound
Nominated for Best Art Direction and Best Original Score
Special Achievement Awarded for Visual Effects
Rate the most famous plot twist in movie history and discuss it below!
__________________
GO LAKERS!
Last edited by Witch King; 05-12-2005 at 03:46 AM.
I decided to read the fabled One Negative Review for ESB at Rotten Tomatoes. Here it is. It's very bizarre. First off, the man has an extremely strange writing style. Second, I think he's insane. It seems as though he hates the fact that these movies were so popular and decided to take it out on Empire, knowing that his review wouldn't matter and would get lost in the sea of glowing reviews. Well, I guess now it does matter since IT'S THE ONLY BAD REVIEW.
I scanned over the reviews for all the movies and noticed something. It seems that all New York critics in general seem to hate Star Wars. None of them seemed to give them good scores, and when they did they still came across as hating it. What's up with that?
Anyway, while Empire is my least favorite (and that doesn't mean much, that makes it merely my third favorite movie of all time by a close margin), I can understand why it's considered the best so universally. The music is definately my favorite of the whole series.
this one was another great birthday event for me as a 13 year old kid. i distinctly remember my sister and her boyfriend taking me and my friend brad to my pi pizza and then to the dadeland duplex theater. it was the biggest theater in town, because there were not one, but two screens there.
they got stoned and fell asleep before the battle of hoth.
brad ended up going to jail for armed robbery when he was like 19. his dad was a minister and made me put on an altar boy robe once then marveled at how pious i looked.
damn, star wars brings back some repressed memories.
Agreed. I love how in the review Witch King posted, the reviewer talks about how Mark Hamil may someday become an identifiable star but "now" you can barely remember his face. Did he watch the same movie? If I'd seen this in the theaters for the first time in '80 I would have thought Ford and maybe Fisher could go on to bigger and better things.
I think one of the reasons I like this film more than A New Hope is because of Yoda. Not that he's funny and silly at the beginning, but because he's the one who puts Luke in his place and begins teaching him for real.
My impression of me watching Empire Strikes Back:
Luke: Whine. Whine. I can't. I can't. Whine some more.
Yoda: How the hell do you eat this crap?
Me: Heh.
Luke: whine. Whine. I want to learn from a master! Pout.
Yoda: Ready, the whiny brat is not.
Obi-Wan: Teach him! I was a punk kid when you taught me. By the way, why did Qui Gon finish my training? Was I not good enough for the great green Yoda?
Yoda: Teach him I will.
Luke: Whine. Yay! Sulk and whine.
Yoda: Stop that crap you shall. Put me on your back and to the store take me, mule.
...thus began Luke's road to stop the incessant whining.
__________________
The text found here will not be changed for at least 6 months.
It was not only Han's story, but also Yoda's. Combine those two and you have a great stand alond movie that also serves as a sweeping bridge between A New Hope and Return of the Jedu.
__________________
"Protect your chicken from Dokken"
Originally posted by Witch King of Angmar I decided to read the fabled One Negative Review for ESB at Rotten Tomatoes. Here it is.
Quote:
Strictly speaking, "The Empire Strikes Back" isn't even a complete narrative. It has no beginning or end, being simply another chapter in a serial that appears to be continuing not onward and upward but sideways.
Hhmmm...kinda seems like all the other movies when you think about it. Almost like they were..."episodes" in a series or something. (and yes I do realize it was written in 1980, when this was only the second film released, but still, get with the program, my man.)
Quote:
to whom in the galactic confrontations we were about to witness and which, when we did see them, looked sort of like a game of neighborhood hide-and-seek at the Hayden (emphasis mine) Planetarium
Dun-dun-dun! Foreshadowing!!!
Quote:
and Miss Fisher, as sexlessly pretty as the base of a porcelain lamp, become (is it rude to say?) tiresome.
"Sexlessly pretty", hun? I wonder what he thought 3 years later when he saw that scene at Jabba's palace?
Reading this, it seems like this guy was going into the thing pre-occupied with something else in his life. Couldn't pay attention? Are you sh**ting me? This is one of the most a.d.d.-proof movies ever made!
Which makes me curious... Josh, (and other reviewers here) have you ever felt you rated a movie differently based on your personal feelings/mood/state of mind/preoccupation/sobriety or lack thereof at the time?
Originally posted by Craig Wisniewski Which makes me curious... Josh, (and other reviewers here) have you ever felt you rated a movie differently based on your personal feelings/mood/state of mind/preoccupation/sobriety or lack thereof at the time?
My theory is that it's almost impossible not to be affected. Your mood, state of mind and physical condition always have an effect. That's why I always try to be as relaxed and not hungry as possible. I check any 'baggage' at the door when I go into a movie and set aside all my expectations. It's not easy but, as Josh said, you fight through it.
__________________
"Protect your chicken from Dokken"
I've always thought of Episode IV as Han's movie and this as Darth Vader's, but that doesn't mean Han wasn't terrefic in it. Some of the critics, though, didn't like him at all. Including Ebert, who loved the movie. And they all hate Chewie.
I have to ask those of you that were around to remember it. How big a deal really was the "I am your father," statement? I know it was a complete secret and all, but I want to know beyond that what it was like to actually hear it and what people said when they talked about it, if they talked about it.
This site is operated by Cinema Blend LLC. For advertising inquiries, contact Gorilla Nation. CinemaBlend.com is a private, independently owned website which is intended only as entertainment. The views expressed on this website may or may not reflect those of its owner. Don't take us too seriously.
Linear Mode
