Editorial: Future Proof Status For Xbox 360 And PS3

@ Raoh

You helped one person see the light, Im waiting untill the end of the year or maybe early next year to buy a ps3. Im somewhat holding out for a slim version or a good bundle, I feel as if my 360 is there to keep me occupied untill the ps3 gets rolling. It truly is next gen, the 360 is just what the xbox should have been.

i know why all the sony fanboys are on here, they finished watching their bluraymovies, and sice there are really no games for it, they went online on their pc...fanboy losers waiting years for games....lmao
PoS3... i got one as a gift... it collects dust between the few movies i rent for it

Both are Shit in some ways and Good in Other ways. Why not just own both??? Stop complaining I have an XBOX 360, PC and a PS3 on the way, who cares it's just a console...

PC will always smash consoles...
Everything and everyone has their faults and achevements...

Microsoft made their 360s future proof by ensuring that they'll all have RROD'd long before the future ever gets here.

I have both systems and at the moment I play with my Xbox 360 more and the only reason is because I have it modded. If it wasn't for that fact, I wouldn't have picked one up. I started playing GTA4 and I have to say that the controls on the PS3 is so much better. I'll be getting it for the PS3. xbox 360 controls are only good for fps.

Microsoft currently has bragging rights because they currently have better games. PS3 games are starting to get better since company's are starting to figure out how to develop games for them with the power of the ps3. since games are getting bigger and the storage space for the 360 games is just dvd9, some future games would have to be broken into multiple discs.

People complain about the price of the ps3 because they are ignorant and don't think about all the accessories you have to buy for the 360. it's good marketing because it's like how people are. we do the same things with credit cards and pay the minimum payment and end up paying more in the end. same thing goes for the 360, we end up paying more in the end.

Obviously, sony planned for the future by using bluray for their games. it cost more for sony to manufacture games on bluray and yet they cost the same as 360 games. doesn't that say something about MS. sony prepared well for the future and you'll see in a couple of years when microsoft needs to make a new console to compete.

@ Sgubs

its true about a few games ps3 owners are missing out. but by your logic/argument. 360 owners are missing out on gaming as well.

i thought gears of war online was ehh, but gears of war as a whole is a great game. the co op play was very good. cod4 ps3 has that too, halo? eehhhh i'll stick with ut3, i played halo 3 and the campaign was pretty good but i find online to be fisher price my first shooter. forza 2 is a great game. no arguments there. and there are some other good xbox titles. but i found it not worth worrying about those titles the 360 hardware was enough to say fuck it.

but all those games you mentioned are shooters. how about just playing a good rpg, or adventure game? heavenly sword? while it has shooting uncharted is a great game too. resistance is alot better than people think. the campaign blows alot of other shooters away. i put gears and resistance online on the same level both were ehhhh

you want a shooter? play socom. i just started playing it again. and one thing that makes socom better than most games. you actually care if you live or die. if you die you have to wait till the match is over. unlike most 360 shooters. run, gun, die, spawn, wash rinse repeat.


its funny how many claim the ps3 doesnt have many games when they do. i play a ton of ps3 games, and thanks to gamefly i also play games not worth purchasing but playing on either system.

houser from gta mentioned that MS needs to get around the size issue cause games are getting larger not smaller. i'm sure there would be alot more they would like to add to gta4. i wonder how much of the gta DLC to come isnt partly stuff that wouldnt fit on the disc anyway.

ghostbuster devs announced recently that the 360 limitations are holding back the game in the sense of what they really want to do. to make it equall you have to go with the least powerful of the two.

games that have been better on the 360, are not better because the 360 is better. its because its the same last gen tech. just with a larger hard drive, faster proccessor, better graphics card. but nothing has changed. nothing new about it. so developers can develop the same game from 3 years ago only with better texture.

alot of these poor performing ps3 games are by companies not willing or able to afford the time and money to make next gen games.

and not all are worth it. madden 08? congrats you have a 60fps crappy game and ps3 has a 30fps crappy game. EA sucks. insomniac and naughty dog and criterion have proven great games can be made on ps3. anyone else is just lazy or poor

now when i got my 360 i thought it was cool. my first real online xbox live experience with all the features and DLC was marvel ultimate alliance. love that freaking game. and console for console i have to say the 360 is the best version.

my friend talked to me while i was playing another game.. nice.. we then jumped online via invites and got another friend in the game with ease.. nice. ... then after beating it, i bought the exclusive heroes and villains DLC pack. nice...

then it happened. my dvd drive started humming, 360 got loud and my dvd was beyond playable it was so badly scratched. your precious 3 year warranty if for rrod only so no special warranty for me, thank god i got store warranty.

by the way, this was 2 months after the 360 was bought.

then the same thing happened again. heating, dvd scratching etc. this was 3 months after the last replacement.

bought a ps3 during this time while i waited to get my 360 replaced.

i had the non hdmi 360. so i waited for the store to clear out their non hdmi stock so when i went for replacement i could get the hdmi port that should have been included in the first place. this one seemed more solid, didnt get hot as quick. cool..


whats that noise? mute the tv. sob its the 360. it doesnt get hot cause they must of put in a fan powered by a jet engine. the only game i could enjoy without that loud fan bothering me was forza 2.

stuck with the ps3 since then. while the ps3 does not have a solution atm like xbox live. i can still play online quite well. never have a problem getting online or finding a match for any online game.

the only thing i miss is in game xmb and ability to invite no matter what game i or others are playing.

other than that, knowing that i can watch a movie, then without turning it off play burnout or ut3 or cod4 for hours, then stream a movie, then fold@home while i go to the store and my ps3 is still cool and whisper quite.. is well worth not having the 360 anymore and having a few less games.

as far as future proof which is the topic. the 360 isnt really competing with the ps3. its more like it finally beat the ps2.

that is still in the market. if the ps2 can last 7-8 years +

longer life than both xbox's put together. imagine the life expectancy of the ps3.

by show of hands how many people are going to RUN and buy the new xbox?

how many are going to wait to see how their hardware holds up first?


by that time the ps3 will be beyond affordable. and developers will be better at developing.

can u guys just shut up?
i am a xbox 360 owner, and i do not hate the ps3.From either party, you just stick with your console and shut it.Ps3 owners, go play your resistance and stuff.x360 owners,go back to your halo and stuff..puh-lease, like you are capable of changing the mind of a owner.. your just gonna start a fight.Back to burnout paradise, a multi-platform game... get it?

when the ps3 doesnt suck or gets fun games ill buy one, in the mean time my wii and 360 plus the great ps2 games still being released will keep me occupied. Well thats only if i dont die or something new comes out before ps3 devs learn how to utilize its hardware, or make a good game thats not final fantasy.

It's funny how people forget to see the debate between 360/PS3 as something regarding a far future.

Man, the nbext generation begun in November 2005 and PS3 came one year later with an HW that, in the gaming area, is not stronger that Xbox360 one.

Yes, with BRay winning format wars, PS3 might be a "better multiuse-HW", but these should be mainly consoles.

Xbox360 and PS3 are not enought strong to be a competitive HW for many years, so we're talking about two machines that I hope won't be the top console offering after the end of 2010/begin of 2011.

Yes, they could last longer for the masses, but what is all this discussing about the future of things that should be in the middle of their life?

The poblem is only that PS3, superior in playing movies, came a year later in the market, came with an hardware not superior to 360 for games and came without games.
Still now is missing many AAA titles that we already had on 360.

If you want to play games I would immediately go 360, realying on many ALREADY RELEASED titiles, many exclusive coming, and many multi titles coming.

PS3 will have it's share of great exclusives but won't be more that 360 ones.
And will come later.

Sorry, but I prefer to live the present now.

I own both consoles but i had my 360 long before (8months) my PS3.LOL!

360 fanboys can say all the positive features of the 360 until their eyes turn white or until pigs fly, which ever comes first. As a supporter of the 360 there is one issue that the 360 still have to face. This is the RROD!! i mean, what good are all these features ( xbox live, AAA games, "Gears of War 2".. Exclusives, etc. who cares!) when you can't even use any of them when your 360 feaks out and RROD flashes before your eyes.

you guys are so blinded by your own fanboism that you don't notice how MS is fu*ing consumers up the arse with these hardware failures. I know people who are in their 5th console already, while others are on their 4th console repair. MS should answer this problem first before even assuming they could get into a "Future Proof" debate. Freakin A! the freakin 360 isn't even "Today Proof"!LOL! what more Future! I myself am on my 2nd RROD repair in less than a month. Why not talk about "Quality Proofing" on the 360 before anything else.

U know, while you morons are arguing about the future prospects of the PS3 you are missing out on some of the best on-line gaming fun that a console can offer. The Xbox 360 is not a perfect machine. But it is the best gaming option at this time. I have had hours of fun playing games like Gears of War, COD4, Halo 3, Forza Motorsport 2. These games are brilliant in their execution and the best games I have played on a console so far! Now while you are sitting there holding onto your bitter loyalty you are nothing less than ripping yourself off by not experiencing the fun of these games. Its not about which console is better!!! Its about being able to own BOTH! If I cared about MGS4 or Final Fantasy I would buy a PS3 but I don't. Thats not to say they are not cool games! You all sound really bitter and the fact is that even though I have had an Xbox break down I still think it is the best gaming option at this time for the hardcore gamer. The PS3 exclusive titles out there AT THE MOMENT do not interest me and anything good is already available on Xbox.e.g. COD4 or GTA4. I never owned a Playstation I thought the graphics were crappy on release, even the PS2 was behind the eight ball graphically. I chose the N64 and Xbox 1 for their great graphics and better game options.
I have a question for PS3 owners. How long are you prepared to wait for this magical day when the PS3 hardware catches up? Just realise that while you are waiting for your expectations to be met. Thousands of Xbox360 owners every day are enjoying hours of top quality online play with the same graphics and sound as the PS3. I understand your feelings loyalty and hope. But you are misguided. If you really want to point the finger at people being tricked by marketing, look at the PS3 owner. They went and bought a console based on an idea. An idea that someday in the future it will deliver? While right now the Xbox360 has already delivered!

If people claim downloadable games and movies are the future how much drive space would you need to hold a decent sized library? That seems crazy to me there's no way optical discs are on the way out. I mean games in future are supposed to be bigger, more detailed, and better in graphics. How the hell are you going to store that kind of a information on a hard drive let alone a library of games? That and people will still want to be able to trade, return, borrow physical media.

I think it's smart that Sony gambled on Blu-ray. It's the only disc format capable of taking game content to the next level. Atleast until super hard drives are invented.

If people claim downloadable games and movies are the future how much drive space would you need to hold a decent sized library? That seems crazy to me there's no way optical discs are on the way out. I mean games in future are supposed to be bigger, more detailed, and better in graphics. How the hell are you going to store that kind of a information on a hard drive let alone a library of games? That and people will still want to be able to trade, return, borrow physical media.

I think it's smart that Sony gambled on Blu-ray. It's the only disc format capable of taking game content to the next level. Atleast until super hard drives are invented.

LOL@Jonathon

You're laughing at the fact that PS3 users have to buy a new controller?
Guess what?
From that $50 I save by not paying for Live, I can use it to buy a DualShock 3 and I only pay for it ONCE, while my online gaming remains subscription free and lagless on PSN.

OMG are your serious Johnathan, you pull the fanboi card, with your comments?!?!

Ok, so you can say the PS3 has absolutely no games. well thats somewhat true.

you can also say that most ports run like ass on PS3, that is also true.

and the fact that most games dont come out for a while on the PS3 due to extra develpment factors.

That is all true, but your STILL missing some major points and faults on your beloved 3shitty.

Ill go ahead and make a list of shit that bugs most people about the 360. then you counter with your excuses and what else you say is wrong with the PS3. OK ready, set GO!!!

1. First of all and most importantly of all, the 360 is an unreliable piece of hardware. Not only does the average consumer go through 3 in a year, the truly sad thing is, that most people that dont even usually play video games know about the infamous RROD. thats pretty sad. which is probably one of the major contributing factors to the Wii's success.

2. you say the PS3 is expensive? still? well ill show you a little comparisson, since ive had about 4 360s, and 1 PS3, i spent, on hardware alone, about 700 dollars, actually a little more, on the 360, whereas i only spent 500 on my PS3. The extra mulla for the wifi adapter, online service, external HD DVD player, made the 360 the more expensive console to own.

3. extra online fees. this drives me nuts, even though xbox live is a very good online service, i really do not like paying an extra 50 dollars a year on top of my 600 dollar anual DSL bill. (yes at 50 bucks a month, my DSL costs that much annually, do the Math) PS3 online service, which is lacking in comparisson, but improving greatly, is free.

4. HDD space. you say Digital downloads are the future? you may be right, but how much are you goin to spend on your 120 gig, or 20 gig HDDs? i personally know. i bout shit my pants when i had to spend 100 bucks on fuckin 20 gigs. and 200 on 120 gigs. whereas in my PS3 i spent 140 and got 320 gigs.

5. extra battery packs and chargers for the 360 are just insane, i would much rather spend 55 bucks on a dualshock 3 that i will never have to buy batteries for, and when (if ever) the internal battery goes bad, i can get a free replacemet, whereas i spent 60+ dollars on battery packs and chargers for my 4 360 controllers.

6. besides the infamous RROD, i know that another common problem, is the external power supply. which i had to get replaced 2x on my most recent 360.

7. Great games, Ex. GTA4, will not be as great because of multi-platform development. not every 360 has an HDD, and the DVD format has limited GTA4, Rockstars own words. From what ive seen so far, the PS3 version is actually superior in gameplay. like burnout paradise. All the extra fuss about the EXCLUSIVE DOWNLOAD CONTENT!!!!!! is pointless, your still goin to pay god knows how many extra xbox live points for that shit. and who says the PS3 wont get their version of exclusive stuff, not the same, but still exclusive. i dont think Rockstar is going to forget the company that got them where they are today.

i could go on, but im seriously tired of typing, and of being biased, i own both consoles, actually all 3, and i play my PS3 more, thanks to GT5, uncharted, Rachet and clank, resistance (which have you actually played this before you said its sucks, and Resistance 2 isnt out yet, so there is no way you can dis that game) the only thing i use my 360 for is gears. halo 3 was a HUGE disapointment, i totally lost all respect for halo after that game. a High-def game that only runs in 640p HAH! but you fanbois dont bring that up do you? so go ahead and make up a list that consists of more than "the PS3 is expensive der" or "it has no games depy der" cause those excuses are going to be out the window after the end of this year.

ill be checking to see what you say. good luck!!!

meh. they both have bads and goods. i have both and there all cool

@ Jonathan
home comes out dis fall ur ass jus pissed cuz u gotta pay 4 xbox live n we dont pay shit n we get home on top of dat

gears is da biggest piece of crap, all u do is take cover n shoot da whole damn time wit another predictable gay ass aliens have invaded storyline, atleast resistance has a unique storyline n insane weapons

n wat bout haze?? huh? dat game madd hot


n about blu ray... ur ass tryin to make a come bak from hd-dvd... jus lik b4 blu-ray is gonna kick ass



n about dat game sales crap..... let see if it look lik dat after mgs4 come out huh, or socom, resistance 2, killzone 2, littlebigplanet, teken 6, white knight chronicles, infamous, ect

PS3 or Xbox 360 future proof, come on fellas, everybody knows nothing is future proof and with the rate of technology raising as it is now there will be the next big thing out. Microsoft and Wii are already talking about a new system in late 2010 from what I've heard. Just think what is going to come out then. Microsoft doesn't think anything is future proof and that is why they spend more money then Sony and Nintendo combine. And to think that the PS3 will all of a sudden look 10x better then what it does now is just stupid, I would guess it might improve over the future, but nothing to blow us away. Speaking of memory issues, didn't the makers of Asassins Creed say they were having memory issues with both consoles. To push something out in true 1080p fashion takes a lot of memory and that is why you won't see any cable station do so because it would jam the signal and that is why Metal Gear Solid might only run at 720p and only have the ability to upcode to 1080p, and this is what the maker of MGS4 stated. Nothing is future proof and with gaming growing as fast as it is now we all will be looking for the next big thing soon.

What I see now is that Sony is trailing bad, but there is no doubt they will make a push in a year or two. There is a saying that, "Potential will get you fired!."

The Wii is a Fab console that is off and running and there seems to be nothing gettting in it's way in terms of sales, but my concern is games and the life of the console.

The 360 is a game selling machine and has the install base to sell them. It has games out now and it has games in the future. And to think that it doesn't have games coming out in the future is just a funny joke. Game companies thinka about the future and Microsoft has given them a solid outlet to have a future.

I see Sony’s viral marketing arm is at it again.
I have both consoles, and I'll only buy games for the Xbox; They run better (HL2, RS LV2, Dynasty Warriors etc), they have achievements, it’s got Xbox live (friends, voice chat blah blah blah), the controller is better - I could go on and on.
Sony has a lot of catching up to do. I'm not saying the PS3 will always be crap, I'm just saying right now it is. I’m not a fan boy, I'm a gamer - and I'll side with whoever provides the best gaming experience and at the end of the day, irrational loyalties aside, that is what it’s all about.

jay your retarded the lens in the ps3 reads faster than 360. the only reason the games have a hard problem being read is because most of them are 360 imports. but if u play ps3 exclusives you will find they read a hell of alot better than the 360 exclusives. R-TARD

This kid Jonathan dares to call others fanboi when his comment is riddled with stupidity. I like how quickly your weak opinion quickly degraded into nothing more than simple minded fortune telling.

Keep preaching because your congregation will be moving on as soon as your precious box is dropped early yet again because Microsoft is more concerned about holding a top spot rather than providing their consumers with quality hardware.

Stay in school kiddo.

@Jonathan

Youre an idiot. And a fanboy who has bought entirely into M$ marketing.

When I look at the specs comparitively between 360 and PS3 this analogy comes to mind.

PS3 is a Newly Designed Sports car and 360 is a SuperSport Muscle Car.

I say that because 360 has a really nice GPU with a turbo charge (on board Memory).

While the PS3's Chipset is built new from the ground up so to speak. From the Cell to the Blu Ray drive its got new Technology in it (except the GPU is the RSX slightly modified Video Card with no on board memory) .

360's Max power is easy to tap because its chipset is traditional.

PS3's Max power is going to take more time and effort to reach but will out do 360 in the end. This is a console with an 11 year support cycle and a futuristic chipset. Built on the Cutting edge trend of chip manufacturer's getting more power by making cpu's with many cores.
(they got to keep up with Moore's Law )

PS3 is doing devs a favor by getting them up to speed on programming for machines with alot of cores.

i've had all three systems. 360 died on my twice. dvd failure not rrod. third one was ok but louder than the first two.

during the 2nd 360 failure i bought a ps3 in november 2007. bought my second ps3 2 weeks ago. and plan to buy a third over the summer.


its the best all in one. i have an 80gb in my bedroom (upgraded to 120gb hd going higher soon). i have it on almost all the time. folding@home during work hours.

your right about alot of games wiht bad framerate on the ps3. those are games from companies like EA or low budget companies.

i play warhawk, resitance, uncharted, ut3, dmc4, heavenly sword, cod4, oblivion, motorstorm, burnout paradise, gt5 prologue, eye of judgment

all without a problem. not including all the games i have rented from gamefly. dark sector, condemned 2 etc.

and my ps2 games i still play, ffxi, ffx, ffxii, metal gear solid essentials, all the socoms, indigo prophecy.

with that out the way. the second ps3 is for my son. i have yellow dog linux installed on my ps3. once i get him an hdtv for his bedroom, i'm installing yellow dog on his ps3, removing his old crappy pc (he only needs access to surfing, wiki, youtube, instant messenger and a few mame games all doable from yellow dog linux on the ps3. so good bye pc, tube tv and computer desk. hello small tv stand with cable box and ps3 with wireless keyboard and mouse.


with a third ps3 in the living room in the summer thats, a gaming console, blu ra player, upconvert dvd player, media center that recieves my movie and music streams (which is how i watch majority of my movies).


price? when i bought my 360 it was $399. no wifi? if you look at the set up i want above, you'll see i dont want wires running through my house. that was another $100 for the 360 so thats $499. batteries? are you serious? $50 for play and charge. and another $50 for the ability to play people online which is a free feature added to the game. (yes i know xbox live has alot of benefits, its actually cool, not needed to charge me to play against someone thats just wrong) so total is close to $600.

when i bought the ps3 i bought nothing. its wireless and comes with a charging cable (short cable, stupid) free online. headset? came with a game. ps3 was $499 thats it.

jonathan mentioned choosing to upgrade to a getting a hard drive. good point. you can easily buy an hd for your 360 solving the space issue right? wrong. the dvd is still small. like houser from rockstar said, games are getting bigger not smaller. mlb 2k couldnt even hold all the stadiums and outfits on the 360 dvd you have to log on to live and download what couldnt fit on the dvd.

but lets go back to choosing to buy a hard drive. are you asking developers to choose which 360 owner to develop a game for? the restrictions are that not every 360 has a hard drive so hard driveless 360 owners get screwed with games that have to have a hard drive. like burnout paradise. no online for burnout paradise on 360's without a hard drive. xbox live experience like movies? no hard drive or small hard drive not happening for some.

so a developer has to say screw hard driveless 360 owners or make make games small for everyone.

you know what the 360 did right? marketing. people actually think its cheaper when its not. think its better when its just old technology so thats why its easy to develop for. its failure rate is atrocious. hard drive less in an xbox live DLC world LOL

like i said i bought the 360 first, the wii second and the ps3 last. i traded my 360 in for credit to buy a second ps3 and cant wait to buy another.

oh and dvd's dead? in 4-5 years? not likely. companies are having problems keeping up with bandwidth. only 65% of americans are online and only 45% of those are broadband. networks are getting slower with more video viewing and gaming. comcast is compressing broadcast to cope with bandwidth issues and timewarner and other companies are thinking about charging for bandwidth. comcast i think started to cap download. prices will get higher. companies will stop selling dvds and only sell blu ray. sharing is an issue. cant give the babysitter the copy of of your kids favorite movie you downloaded. hard media is still going to be relevent. the common person doesnt know how to plug in an hdmi cable. you expect them to upgrade hard drives, download content, stream it, convert it, distribute through their homes. enter credit card information when they could just buy the dvd? LOL

i like DLC too but its not taking over any time soon.


lol @ fanboi calling others fanbois

tell you what you be the pot i'll be the kettle

Whoever wrote this is smoking some serious weed there.
The PS3 is the one that's future-proof. MS has never been known for planning ahead with their consoles. Look what happened to the XBox-it died. The PS2 is STILL selling and games are STILL coming out for that. MS's problem is commitment.