Editorial: Nintendo’s Wii Is The Gaming Industry’s Financial Scapegoat

From a software perspective, I don't think Nintendo is "screwing" hardcore gamers. For me at least I find there is at least five games that I'm interested in (Zelda TP, Metroid 3, Mario Galaxy, SSBB, and Disaster). These I'd at least categorize as first tier efforts (may change if they turn out bad much like any game), and then there's also games I'd consider fillers (i.e. nothing must have necessarily if I had to choose) like Super Paper Mario, Battalion Wars, etc.

If anything, I'd place the blame squarely in the lackluster efforts of third-parties.

"All right, that's enough. I want this no-face character dead and I want Tracy dead. What's the matter, you bums forgotten how to kill people? Have you no sense of pride in what you do? No sense of duty, no sense of destiny? I'm looking for generals; what have I got? Foot soldiers! I want Dick Tracy dead!"

A line from the movie Dick Tracy pretty much provides the template for how I feel about third-party support as far as Nintendo consoles go in the last decade. In terms of the videogame industry, third-parties in general have been dragging their feet, playing a wait and see approach, and ultimately make excuses in an attempt to avoid every making anything worthwhile on a Nintendo system. With the Wii, it's become a tedious task to patiently wait with people saying "any minute now, yep, any minute." It's been almost a year and even the PS3's about the bust out with some really great software on the horizon. While companies like Konami have set out to make a game like Metal Gear Solid 4 for the PS3, what exactly did they give the Wii? Elebits? I don't know about the rest of you but that's pathetic. Where's the Wii's MGS games and the like. Let's not kid ourselves, we see the pattern and it's been a sore spot to Nintendo fans for years so patience is pretty low as far as I'm concerned. Little examples here and there isn't going to cut it so don't even star bringing them out. It's about as encouraging as MS saying they cater to casuals by simply saying "look, we have Viva Pinata." Back in our minds it's like "that's it?" You can't change perception with token offerings. Look at the GameCube, sure you can say it has Tales of Symphonia and a few other RPGs, but that didn't exactly give much encouragement for people to think they're getting a reasonable offering of the genre. People got more peace of mind that with regards to the PS2 it was the RPG console, while the Xbox got the FPS/PC game system label. If Nintendo systems are best known mainly for Nintendo games then obviously there's not enough couterbalance from third-parties which is odd considering there's more third-party developers. If I pull out a franchise name, any name, what's the most likely tought that consumers will come up as to where this franchise is mostly going to go? I don't think Nintendo's had that since the SNES era.

What the Wii needs is more "generals" not more me too efforts to ride on the success of Nintendo's casual efforts. Sure do those too (i.e. games like Word Coach, EA Playground, etc.), but enough is enough. Where's the hardcore games that even the PS2 and Xbox had more of because I'm telling you it's not about graphics and power if those systems got more "hardcore" games (i.e. deep stories, great gameplay, cinematic experiences, etc.)? Where's the balance?

Supadude, the NPD numbers and the reference to Transformers out-selling Resident Evil for July (and currently through August) couldn't be used because it was forthcoming data that hasn't been "officially" released.

It was removed for the time being.

This is simply considering that the relation of a disclaimer to a quotient of sales that could not be used would have created more controversy over the lack of a source and the display of the prospective figures.

From a software perspective, I don't think Nintendo is "screwing" hardcore gamers. For me at least I find there is at least five games that I'm interested in (Zelda TP, Metroid 3, Mario Galaxy, SSBB, and Disaster). These I'd at least categorize as first tier efforts (may change if they turn out bad much like any game), and then there's also games I'd consider fillers (i.e. nothing must have necessarily if I had to choose) like Super Paper Mario, Battalion Wars, etc.

If anything, I'd place the blame squarely in the lackluster efforts of third-parties.

"All right, that's enough. I want this no-face character dead and I want Tracy dead. What's the matter, you bums forgotten how to kill people? Have you no sense of pride in what you do? No sense of duty, no sense of destiny? I'm looking for generals; what have I got? Foot soldiers! I want Dick Tracy dead!"

A line from the movie Dick Tracy pretty much provides the template for how I feel about third-party support as far as Nintendo consoles go in the last decade. In terms of the videogame industry, third-parties in general have been dragging their feet, playing a wait and see approach, and ultimately make excuses in an attempt to avoid every making anything worthwhile on a Nintendo system. With the Wii, it's become a tedious task to patiently wait with people saying "any minute now, yep, any minute." It's been almost a year and even the PS3's about the bust out with some really great software on the horizon. While companies like Konami have set out to make a game like Metal Gear Solid 4 for the PS3, what exactly did they give the Wii? Elebits? I don't know about the rest of you but that's pathetic. Where's the Wii's MGS games and the like. Let's not kid ourselves, we see the pattern and it's been a sore spot to Nintendo fans for years so patience is pretty low as far as I'm concerned. Little examples here and there isn't going to cut it so don't even star bringing them out. It's about as encouraging as MS saying they cater to casuals by simply saying "look, we have Viva Pinata." Back in our minds it's like "that's it?" You can't change perception with token offerings. Look at the GameCube, sure you can say it has Tales of Symphonia and a few other RPGs, but that didn't exactly give much encouragement for people to think they're getting a reasonable offering of the genre. People got more peace of mind that with regards to the PS2 it was the RPG console, while the Xbox got the FPS/PC game system label. If Nintendo systems are best known mainly for Nintendo games then obviously there's not enough couterbalance from third-parties which is odd considering there's more third-party developers. If I pull out a franchise name, any name, what's the most likely tought that consumers will come up as to where this franchise is mostly going to go? I don't think Nintendo's had that since the SNES era.

What the Wii needs is more "generals" not more me too efforts to ride on the success of Nintendo's casual efforts. Sure do those too (i.e. games like Word Coach, EA Playground, etc.), but enough is enough. Where's the hardcore games that even the PS2 and Xbox had more of because I'm telling you it's not about graphics and power if those systems got more "hardcore" games (i.e. deep stories, great gameplay, cinematic experiences, etc.)? Where's the balance?

Wii has a lot of shovelware, just like all generational leaders before it, but Excite Truck is awesome. I doubt you played it.

What a load of CRAP!

There a few good Wii Games not mentioned here.

Mario Striked Charged-very adictive and brilliant Online-coupled with better graphics than the Cube version(Mario Smash football).

Prince of persia Rival swords-even though a port it plays 100% better than the PC version-only a shame that its a full priced game-for 30 euro it would have sold very well too.

Medal of Honor Vanguard -i enjoyed it only problem it is too short-for rental very good.

Red Steel graphics ok,controls a little shaky but still very good-has sold nearly a million!(like rayman Raving Rabbids and thats a lot better than Wario Ware!)

Sonic-very good but Mario Galaxy will be 100% better!


And Excite truck-a GEM! only the crap music lets it down but still a very good game!

And for Twilight Princess-excellent but you still have the feeling at the end it was very rushed(3 Dungeons after another) and still cant beat Ocarina of time!(sorry i have played OOT 7 times but Twilight Princess is after 2 times not the same as OOT!)

And Boogie-im looking forward to this game-why ?

Singstar,dance game and videos in one!-when that wont be a hit then what will be one?

And RE4-Best version honestly-GC game was good(only the censored version in germany unfortunatly!),PC version was crap and the Wiimote makes all the difference.

Im a so caled Hardcore Gamer and have absolutly NO intrest in the Paystation 3 or the"Ring of Death" Xbox 360.

for all these Shooters ive got a PC and lets be honest Nintendos Games are really top notch and i cant wait for Metroid 3 and Galaxy!

Alright, just for clarification, my comment above was made this morning at 1:00AM Central US Time (GMT -6:00). Not at the time it's stamped. So, if you're confused as to why my quote from the article is different than what the article actually says, that's because this article is now completely different (for the better, though) than the article that I criticized this morning. More specifially the NPD sales and Resident Evil 4 have thankfully been corrected, as has the structure and clarity of the article. So, tip of the hat to those points.

However, I still greatly disagree with this article. Not every game is a million seller, or even a 100k seller. Publishers are smart and account for this. However, when a business can afford to sell Bejeweled for $20 on the PC, then you can't tell other publishers to ignore the power of smaller, less expensive games.

Lastly, I just have to point out that while I am pleased that you cleaned up the article, I'm extremely displeased with the way it was simply changed without taking responsibility for your mistakes. If you want to be a journalist, you need to follow some ethical practices. One of those practices is not changing something once it is released to the public without some disclaimer that it has been changed due to previous errors. Either one should post the disclaimer at the top of the article with the edit date, or one should leave the article as is and post "Editor's Notes" in parentheses with the corrections beside the errors.

Once again, while I whole heartedly disagree with your opinion, I'm not saying that you are wrong in your opinion. I'm simply stating that facts used in an article should be checked and re-checked before submition to the public, and one should take responsibilty to admit when facts are incorrect and let one's readers know that what they are reading today, IS NOT what was originally written. Once your facts are right, your opinion can still be the same and I will whole-heartedly respect it, whether I agree with it or not.

@ Rich Knight

How can you express yourself as an Nintendo fanboy?, if your going to sell your wii. All the quality games are just about to arrive and you sell it?


@ los_diablos

I've mentioned quite alot of 3rd party titles that will be great.
But for you I shall say them again;
Resident Evil: UE , Zack & Wiki, Fifa, Madden, Rayman Rabbids 2, Guitar Hero III, Nights, My Sims. With these on top of the First party titles coming , I think your should have ample amount of games to play until even more games get produced with more focus on the wii and wii exclusives.

LOL, nice try Rich Knight.

Man, I just don't get people who rally around a console and defend its honor like they're defending King and country. These consoles are products made by very very greedy corporations and you are their food. Why such loyalty? It's like religious zealots of opposing faiths battling over whose God has the bigger joystick.

As far as the article goes, I guess there's some logic behind it. Without a solid system of quality control in place, it doesn't matter how many games you churn out. How many of them will actually be worth your $50? I understand that. But like many of the other people who have commented, I don't understand the inability of the writer to recognize that there are a significant number of quality titles available for the Wii and more on the way. To name my personal favorites, Excite Truck (I just cannot see how this game qualifies as "terrible" in the writer's estimation; it's pure, unadulterated arcade fun), Resident Evil 4 (I played it through on PS2, as well, and will play it probably a half dozen more on the Wii; the motion controls are just a blast), Prince of Persia Rival Swords (same thing I said about Res 4 applies here equally), Mortal Kombat Armageddon, Call of Duty 3, Trauma Center (a perfect example of how unimportant graphics are when the game is solid fun), Super Paper Mario, Zelda Twilight Princess (love that horseback riding), Ellebits (an overlooked title from the Katamari creators), Raymon's Raving Rabbits (TOO much fun), big brain academy (sure it's overpriced, but it's addictive fun; too addictive), TMNT (another overlooked, fun title), and Wii Sports has yet to get old for me. In addition to these, I've been able to go back and enjoy Gamecube titles that I wasn't able to paly before, such as: Resident Evil 0 & 1 (well worth the wait), and Metroid 1 & 2. I've also been able to relive my nostalgic past by downloading N-64 games like Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time. Timeless games. The titles due out over the next year look fantastic. The Umbrella Chronicles, Boogie, Metroid 3, Mario Galaxy, Ghost Squad, Madden 2008 (with the new EA auto-play feature). I include the titles ported over from other consoles as well, like Beautiful Katamari.

Obviously, I like games. I loved my PS2 over the years. I'm enjoying the hell out of the Wii. And I'll probably end up getting one of the next gen consoles if they ever work out the heinous bugs. (Sorry, but the Xbox return % doesn't encourage me to buy one at this point. And the PS3 blue-ray player is going to go the way of the 8-track before long as Tivo and Apple continue to show us that digital media is way of the future.) For my money, the Wii is a hands down winner even with the smaller library of titles.

Of course, if you don't like Nintendo an want to attack that's okay with me. Know why? Because I don't work for them, I don't own stock in them, and they're big boys and girls who don't need me defending them. Bottom line is that I'm a consumer. When the product is smart and cost-effective, I buy it. When something better comes along, I'll buy that, too. What's with all the controversy? I don't get it.

Speaking on behalf of Will, nobody's a fanboy here at cbgames for any company. Well, except me, as I'm a Nintnedo fanboy. That said, I still can't stand the wii and I think I'm going to trade it in for a PS3.

Lair's not looking so hot anymore, but I NEED Heavenly Sword. Smash Bros. Brawl, be damned.

You, sir, are the walking definition of a jaded gamer. Not only that, but a jaded gamer with no respect for transitions in your writing or a proper conclusion to tie together all of your sensationalist ideas.

Though, it really doesn't matter, for the arguement and facts set forth by you are simply incorrect. I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, the very definition of an opinion doesn't allow me to say that. I'm saying that the FACTS you use to present your arguement are FALSE, and thus, your arguement is broken and amounts to NOTHING but an ill-informed opinion.

I will return later to point of the failings of this article, but I must get some sleep before work in the morning. I just could not go to sleep without saying something here to deter anyone from actually taking your side on this without first helping you form a coherent thought.

Well, on second thought, here's one to get things started:
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Your article:
"What’s even more sad is that Capcom’s Resident Evil 4, a highly anticipated release for the Wii, is barely within the top ten games in software sales. In fact, out of the estimated 100 available titles on the Wii, only the same games appear in the top ten sales for software: Mario Party 8, Wii Play and Wii Sports."
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Now, I assume you're talking about the June NPD numbers (considering that's the only sales chart you link to).
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The second sales article you link to:
"Software

426,200 - Mario Party 8 (Wii)
293,200 - Wii Play (Wii)
288,400 - Pokemon Diamond (DS)
214,700 - Pokemon Pearl (DS)
197,400 - Forza Motorsport 2 (Xbox 360)
197,350 - Guitar Hero II (PS2)
177,600 - Guitar Hero II - (Xbox 360)
157,900 - Pokemon Battle Revolution (Wii)

I've left off numbers eight and nine for lack of unit data (Guitar Hero II for the Xbox 360 and Resident Evil 4 for the Wii, respectively) but note that Nintendo owned six of the top ten spots for June between the DS and Wii."
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So, yes, Mario Party 8 and Wii Play are in the top ten. But where's Wii Sports? Oh, that's right, it's packaged with the Wii. So, while it is selling a great deal (1:1 with the Wii system, in fact!), it can't be on the list. Moving along, Pokemon Battle Revolution breaks the top ten along with...*gasp* Resident Evil 4? .

Well, hopefully that is enough of a blow to your arguement so that I don't have to come back here tomorrow to further break down your arguement.

Oh, by the way, yes, I AGREE that there are a lot of crappy games on the Wii, but there are a lot of crappy games on EVERY system. Also, businesses are in business to make money, and publishers are businesses FIRST. Why leave money on the table? To make you happy?

Man...I gotta get to sleep!

I guess the point of the article is to rally for better game quality and for publishers to get off their ass and make games that are on par to spiderman, madden, medal of honor, scarface. Because those games are just the best games ever. No, no, I understand the point of mentioning those games. It was to point out that those titles were golden(or platinum) hits. I don't know, is scareface really a better game than wii sports? For that matter, would you really want to buy spiderman over mario party 8? What games were there on th PS2 at the time spiderman 3 came in that you'd completely forget about spiderman 3 and get that? Just a thought.

As for quality of wii games. You have to realize that it's only been 6 solid months of publishers switching over to the Wii platform. You have your mgs4 that's been worked on for over a year. Your halo that' s been in the work since the last halo. Brawl was announced(unofficially) in 2005. If you have something in your head, it might not take as long to make a great game.

I agree, some titles are a bit lackluster. But Nintendo has rarely really disappointed consumers when they plan to make a great game. I don't know, but I kinda looking forward to the wii balance board.

That guy not even mention smash brothers, mario kart, mario galaxy, metroid katamari and dragon quest sword. poor guy, he must be living somewhere near the corner of the earth and could only find zelda and alien syndrome. Who decide a certain game good or bad anyway? me when i've play the game! not other people.

Well of course the article is going to be biased - they all are really.

I would agree that a great many games on the Wii have not been thought through or had much effort put into them - they do not use its capabilities at all, or if they do they do it in passing, and it looks like a cheap gimmick.

They will have to sort it out - Zelda was good, Wii Sports was good (but come on Nintendo, why no online leagues? Dumb asses).

Bring on racing/shooting/sports games that you can play online. Mario Strikers could be cool but if Nintendo get us waving around the controller a bit more...

...and these third party developers really need to think before they release crap for the Wii.

Im sorry but Richard...you were foolish to take your nintendo wii back to the store. I cant complain tho as 9 mounths through teh DS's release i took my DS back and got a ps2....that was a HUGE mistake...i mean look at the DS library today....oh and next year and the end of this year....well the DS gets alot more fun to say the least. Its normal to say i have a DS again...oh and i got rid of my ps2...tho i would rather burn it to death.

Trust me...you will regret taking your wii bak....just as i regreted taking my DS back.

Just a response to some of the other comments here:
This is not a case of a sony/xbox fanboy slamming the wii or any "wii bashing", rather it's a justified statement of disgust at the state of 3rd party games in general on the console. It's well known that the Wii is getting shovelware ports of bad PS2/Gamecube/PSP games and that very few games designed specifically for the unique nature of the Wii are being developed outside of Nintendo's own game studios.
One comment here said: "It's interesting how you mention Halo 3 but completely neglect Prime 3, Brawl, Galaxy, Kart, ect."
Yeah, everyone knows and expects metroid Prime 3, Mario kart, Smash Bros and Mario Galaxy will be good. Those are once again all Nintendo's own first party developed titles. Is there gonna be any 3rd party games that match that quality on Wii this year? I don't see anything coming on the horizon to convince me of that. (Not even No More Heroes, the capcom developed Wii game that seems to be getting some buzz convinces me, thanks to the director being the man behind the awful Killer7) But then again this is all opinion and maybe other people will be excited by bad ports or licensed games.
I just can't help but think that Nintendo is the only game developer really trying to make the Wii a quality experience. Yes, every console gets crap games, but at least on X360, PSP, DS, PS2, PS3 and PC you can see some consistent effort by several 3rd party studios to create worthwhile gaming experiences while it generally seems they half-ass it on Wii.

@Richard

Dude you're a freaking liar.

First of all there's no way you can be RE4 in under 3 hours the first time around (I've beaten the game on all 3 systems several times).

Second, I'll admit the selection of quality games is scarce but I just got a 360 about a week ago and you know what to my surprise the selection is not that great either(It's been out way longer too). At least Nintendo has plenty of games to play with your kids or family.

Third, anybody who says it's "just a gamecube with a gimmick" is totally full of **it and haven't even played the system. Go hump your 360(which I own and love by the way) or PS3 and stop hating and lying.

Your article is rather silly.

Games forthcoming are looking pretty amazing, I'm very excited for the future of the wii with the amount of quality games that iwll be coming.

Yes there are a few rubbish games, but thats the same with every console. Its 3rd parties fault for betting on the the wrong horse. But now with a big shift in resources and a larger focus on the wii customers, we are likely to see many more quality games, not jsut from Nintendo but 3rd party developers as well.

It also makes me laugh about the games, have you looked at the games sales?

I mean games like Tiger woods & rayman raving rabbids have sold tremendously well for 3rd party software. Didn't you notice the ones you mention were first party titles?

Ofcourse Mario Party 8 was going to sell well, wii play with a wiimote surpised that sold well?

Onto Resident Evil 4, Im quite certain alot of people already have the game for the GC, only people who have enough cash buy something like that. I bet when the price drops it will sell some more. All tha tbeing said, its still shifted a fair amount of copies.

If you looka t the software sales, Nintedo dominates it. Most are DS yes, but ps3 and xbox are being outplayed. To say the games are crap is rather silly and ignorant.

Richard why did you buy a wii?
You'll regret it when super smash bros, Metroid and Mario Galaxy come out.

By the tiem Galaxy comes out, another burst of wii sales will happen. That game's gunna case alot more wii's to be sold.

If you at lease knew half the things you were talking about, you would know that Wii Play sold because because it was a Wiimote + a game for an extra $10. The game alone, even at $20 would have never sold.

Games like Spiderman 3 and Transformers sold because they are movie licensed crap, which will always sale despite on how much they suck. Nintendo will have Metroid Prime 3, Super Smash Bros. Brawls and Mario Galaxy out before Christmas and Mario Kart Wii in Q1 of 2008.

Hell, you want to talk about games that require no skills and that sold consoles? OK, let's talk about a piece of trash that dare to call itself a game by letting the player commit violent and criminal acts and made the console it was published on sale like hot cakes. That's right, GTA III. This insult to the gaming industry made non-gamers purchase a PS2 just because it satisfied their gangsters-wannabe void and made children convinced their parents to buy the game even if they weren't suppose to play this .

So if something like this is acceptable, I don't see why buying a Wii for Cooking Mama or a DS for Brain Age be any different, well except for the fact that these games don't make you look like a total screwed up individual when playing them.

Damn, there's always been something about Wii games that doesn't quite fit right for me, and I think this article has hit the nail on the head. Fact is that Nintendo is aiming squarely at the casual gamer, so there is a very small market for hardcore games on the Wii. It's no secret that casual or non-gamers tend to buy a Wii, while regular and hardcore gamers tend to look to a 360/PS3/PC. Not saying die hard Nintendo fans are not hardcore gamers - they're probably some of the more hardcore out there - but they're greatly outnumbered by Wii owners who simply have no interest in games beyond the likes of Wii Sport or Wii Play etc.

And another thing, aside from competing with these casual games, most publishers practically have zero chance in competing against Nintendo's first-party games. The Wii may be gaining the most ground where third-party support is concerned, but many of these games will merely become a blip on the radar compared to Nintendo's efforts.

On the other hand, for us buyers; I do think the Wii is totally worth the price for Nintendo's first-party titles alone, plus the Virtual Console for some awesome old-school gaming. But as for the publishers; many will continue to focus on easy cheap and profitable games for the Wii, and keep their bigger titles where there’s more of a market for them.

Shame, but what do I know?

Unfortunately, quality counts less for quantity when it comes to technology adoption. Consider how many poor quality accessories are on the market for the iPod...yet the sheer number of available accessories means that the iPod will be more appealing customers. And remember, resources directed towards one console by 3rd party developers are resources directed away from the other consoles; quality doesn't really matter. If you want the economic analysis, see http://www.elsonandlarissa.com/wii

This article is misguided. Why? Because Wii games have been selling well. Capcom boosted sales projections due to higher than anticipated sales of RE4:Wii. Rayman and Red Steel are well over the 500,000 mark. Rayman may be over 1 million.

The article doesn't seem to have actually played the games either. Hinting that Cooking Mama is a good game (and Luigi's Mansion..) and saying Excite Truck is bad. Excite Truck is great. There's lots of good games for the Wii, you just have to look for them. The article speaks of Wii Play quite a bit, yet it is a pack-in game with a new Wii Remote. It is a tutorial to teach people to use the remote, nothing more.

Here's a nice little list for you of good games that are all out now:
Zelda
Super Paper Mario
Excite Truck (this game is awesome)
Elebits
Super Monkey Ball
Rayman
Godfather
Scarface
Resident Evil
Madden
Tiger Woods
Wii Sports
Mario Strikers Charged
Call of Duty 3

Here's a small list of games coming out before Christmas that are all AAA games:
Super Mario Galaxy
Smash Bros
Metroid Prime 3
Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles
Dewey's Adventure
Zak and Wiki: The Quest for Barbaros Treasure
Madden 08

There's more games beyond that, and yes there is also a ton of shovelware. But, what you don't realize is there is tons of shovelware for all systems, and people buy shovelware. I don't see any complaining about the PS3 in the article, considering it has 1 decent FPS and that's it after being out 10 months. There's not even shovelware for it, there's simply nothing. If the industry wants a scapegoat, its poor PS3 sales and lack of PS3 games. Wii's got the record sales, record profits, and tons of games selling for it.

To the guy that says he completed Resident Evil 4 in under 3 hours on PS2... umm that is what is called impossible... therefore you are full of crap. Original Resident Evil game could be completed in 2-3 hrs... but Resident Evil 4 will take at least 12 hrs and for most people as much as 20 hrs. Then there is Pro mode, Merc mode, Ada Assignment, and Separate Ways.

As for the Wii having quality titles... more than enough for me to have been happily gaming since I got it

More than with any console I have ever got before it

Zelda Twilight Princess - I spent 60+ hrs
Resident Evil 4 - I spent 80+ hrs and counting
Trauma Center Second Opinion - I spent 12+ hrs
Tony Hawk Downhill Jam - I spent 15+ hrs
Wii Sports - I spent 15+ hrs and still playing
Monkey Ball Banana Blitz - I spent 15+ hrs
Rayman Raving Rabbids - I spent 10+ hrs
Cooking Mama - I spent 5+ hrs
Marvel Ultimate Alliance - I spent 15+ hrs
Call of Duty 3 - I spent 8+ hrs
Mario Party 8 - I spent 1+ hrs and counting (new game)
Mario Striker Charged - I spent 1+ hrs and counting (new game)
Red Steel - I spent 10+ hrs
Excite Truck - I spent 15+ hrs
Big Brain Degree - I spent 2+ hrs... my spouse plays daily
Warioware - I spent 3+ hrs

Do you know how many new super awesome games are on the way to Wii? Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros Brawl, Battalion Wars 2, Fire Emblem Goddess of Dawn, Dragon Quest Swords, Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles, Endless Ocean, No More Heroes, ... on and on... all this year

I also got myself a Playstation 3

Ninja Gaiden Sigma - I spent 10+ hrs and counting
Have tried the demos etc - Spent 3+ hrs

Thats it for now but looking forward to future games

The person that wrote the article obviously doens't actually play themselves

Richard, if you think those are the only 2 games that are good in the whole lineup of games then you are obviously not a gamer. trauma center is one of the most fun games ever. so is raving rabbids. if you didnt want to "shake the stupid pad just to to a combo slash" then you shouldnt have bought a wii. you knew you would do that. where are you getting the combo slash stuff from anyway.

I bought a wii friday and will be taking it back today.

As told by the guy at the console store...the only good games for the wii are resi 4 and twilight princess...

having completed resi 4 in under 3 hours on the ps2 there is no reason for me to own a wii with titles such as wii sports and mario party....

I loved super mario world as much as the next guy but nintendo really are just riding on the zelda/mario franchise...i initially bought it because I love zelda but the fact of the matter is, it's just a gamecube with a gimmick

and at least with the gamecube I didn't have to shake the stupid pad just to to a combo slash