Why The PS3 Does Not Share The Xbox 360's Success

By William Usher: 2007-06-28 01:09:26

Why The PS3 Does Not Share The Xbox 360's Success

Before lambasting the site with “X-fan” comments, this is not a PS3 bashing article. We got most of those out of the way late last year, and a little bit in the early part of this year. Still, many readers tend to think that the PS3 is not doing that bad, and that the sales are on track in the same way that the Xbox 360 was during the same period of last year.

There are two reasons why the former frame of thinking is incorrect: First, the market was very different one year ago. The Xbox 360 was competing with the hype of the PlayStation 3, the shadow of the then-labeled Nintendo “Revolution” and decent PS2 and Xbox software sales. Second, sales for the Xbox 360 and Wii are continuously picking up, while the PS3 sales are continuously declining.

In the instance of the first reason, competition has a lot to do with console sales. During the first six months of the Xbox 360's release, it was nearly on-par to where the PS3 is now, but did so with poor shipments. Sony’s shipment errs were over with by mid-December of 2006. Microsoft’s shipment woes carried over into March of 2006. However, the 360 had picked up sales drastically in June, and by September the Xbox 360 was already at 2.7 million units sold and planted in North America. Hence, the 360 was not falling into the same pit as the PS3, six months into its release. And as mentioned above, people didn’t have the competitive incline to buy the 360 at the time. It was the same for the PS2 during its first six-months after launch – a lack of competition (plus, the Dreamcast was dead right out of the gate) only had the PS2 with steady sales gains (but never a decline like the PS3). But once the Xbox and Gamecube came along, the PS2 was already shifting massive amounts of consoles every month, even up until now.

Alternatively, the PS3, in its seventh month, has barely surpassed the 1.5 million mark in North America. While some may say that’s not a big deal in comparison to the Xbox 360 sales last year...only shifting 80k units a month is a big deal. It’s a sad deal. But it’s not like these numbers are just a one-time deal; the PlayStation 3 has started a new trend of shifting only 80,000 units a month, for the past few months. By September, the PS3 will not have a 2.7 million installed unit base in North America, if it continues its downward sales trend.

What’s worse, though, is that this is the peak of the starting gate race in this newest generation of consoles and the PS3 is suffering from a lack of software, original content and hardware sales. Not only that, the software that is available for the PS3 didn’t even make the top ten on the NPD charts for April or May. Ouch! Consistently, the PS2 is running super-circles around its big brother. How embarrassing is that?

And as stated near the top of the article, one of the other main reasons why the PS3 isn’t being looked upon as a success is because during this extremely competitive console race, the Wii and Xbox 360 are in high-demand. There’s no excuse why people shouldn’t be demanding the PS3. There’s no excuse why Sony – who had one extra year to prep for this scenario – is letting the situation slip down the drain for their console. During this same period of last year, Microsoft was throwing every marketing tactic they could at consumers – it was a triple-threat of Xbox Live, several big games being released each month, (i.e., including games like The Outfit, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter and Dead Rising throughout the summer) and M$ didn’t hesitate to promote the heck out of anything they thought could ring in a dime or dollar.

The difference is that Microsoft has had a cut-throat tactic since unveiling the Xbox 360. I certainly can’t advocate for them being a leader in video game innovation, but I can at least say that during the drought of competition during 2006, M$ never backed down. And when the Wii and PS3 came along, they only amped-up their efforts to keep their lead.

After bolstering in press meetings and pontificating on podiums about the PS3 replacing computers – two years before the PS3 was ready to launch – Sony now looks like the sheepish wolf who realized their teeth weren’t sharp enough to cut the custard. In a way, it’s the company’s response to the current market value of the PS3 that makes it look so unsuccessful. Sony should be finding new ways to make the PS3 look innovative as a gaming console and as a way to play games, rather than relying on the stagnate sales of the current line-up of software (and Blu-Ray) to pick up the slack.

Nevertheless, this doesn’t mean that the newest family member of the PlayStation brand can’t make a comeback. As of right now, Sony should be using every opportunity available to reach publications and popular PS3 bloggers to promote the PS2 backward compatibility...upscaling should be a prime priority in their marketing tactic and the SixAxis should play a bigger part in how they promote the way their games are played, regardless of whether it sucks or not. And as we’ve stated time and time over again, here at CB Games, software sells hardware and the PS3's hardware is only going to sell because of the software.

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JoMaC
August 15, 2008 at 19:03

Simple terms:

PS3 - Blu Ray HD Movies
Xbox 360 - Gameplay

I have both for those reasons

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creatveguy
November 7, 2007 at 12:51

look no one knows what is the future for both consoles.xbox 360 is ruling the gaming industry now, with its impressive franchise of games.ps3 is low right now in developing games and suffering technical issues with cell processor programming and middleware's to help developers. but dont take sony lightly. sony will definetly finds a way to capture the loosen market .ps3 is undoubtedly powerful machine in both graphics/performance. xbox360 is for now. but the future is PS3. coz everybody knows ps3 doesnt use its full potential. when the time comes ,who knows we may play CGI type games. so in my opinion PS3 gonna rock in coming 2008.

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Realview
July 6, 2007 at 05:18

Once again, another crackpot predicting doom for the PS3. You guys need to get a union going or something!

You can talk price, reliability, whatever as factors for people buying one system or another. This argument is a complete waste of time. What matters to true gamers, the ones with the disposable income, is the games that are available for the system they're thinking of getting. Period. The argument begins and ends right there. I work retail, I watch what goes out the door. Those Wiis that are flying out the door? You know how many games get sold alongside them? Just about zero because of that stupid WiiSport that's bundled with it. Bam, you just bought yourself a $250 time-waster with remote sensing. We sell so few Wii games that it's amazing people still talk about it...unless you're all counting on the exclusive titles coming up (like Smash Brothers and Metroid and, lest we forget, all the downloadable games). Pay attention to the material folks, you will see it again.

Now compare the titles you can buy with the 360 and the PS3. Night and day, right? All the best games for the PS3 can be played on the 360 at almost the same quality (except for Resistance, which is just all-right, and gets crushed by Gears of War). The 360 has a full year's worth of titles, some of them great and some not-so-great. So only an idiot would buy a PS3, right? Yeah...unless you pay attention to the fact that Sony will have their own exclusive titles, and plenty of them, soon, because one thing Sony has always done is crank out titles for their machines. Until that time comes, arguing that the PS3 is dead is foolish. They've made some mistakes (and they need to redesign the SIX-AXIS controller, I'm sorry), but they'll eventually come back. NONE of the Big Three of video games can afford to be dismissive of the others at this stage, and the fanboys who don't want to eat crow should hold their tongue and see what happens.

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Vermin
July 3, 2007 at 16:47

Everyone here has made great points, and I agree with alot of the comments. The PS3 wont just die out, and if it did, like someone else said, that would be terrible for the gaming community. Although no one knows what's going to happen, this is my personal opinion. I am a fanboy, but a Nintendo fanboy. I love Zelda more than anything, and I can't wait for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. But the problem is, thats all I really want. I bought my Wii for these two games and nothing more. Which is why my Wii collects dust next to my PS2 and 360. The Playstation's strongest games were Devil May Cry, GTA, Resident Evil, and Final Fantasy. DMC4, GTA4, and RE5 are all confirmed for the Xbox, and FFXIII will probably show up on it as well. So why get a PS3? I really dont have an answer. The PS3 and 360 both have tech flaws, they are both big and clunky, they both over heat, so what's the difference? The price. It's always gonna be about the price. If we get to play our favorite games for less, then why not take advatange of that? I for one, am not gonna pay $200 more just to play GTA. Maybe back when no one had a choice, when it was PS2 exclusive, I would have, but not now. Sony messed up, and anyone that cant see that, is just beeing a fool. All the next-gen systems at the moment, dont have an amazing line up of games. Not even the 360. Check the reviews for every 360 game ever released as of today. Most are barely average. I wont go into the PS3 games cuz we all know they arent great, and the Wii only has Zelda and Paper Mario. It's wayyyy too early to say who will win, between the Xbox and Playstation, but if the PS3 continues to have less than average titles, and all it's amazing games go multi-platform, then it doesnt stand a chance. Sorry Sony. :(

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Experienced-gamer
July 3, 2007 at 12:33

I find the consle war a lot like cars. Which to some may not be a good analogy but it's my opinion. For starters forget about car nationalities for a second. I find the PS3 alot like a ferrari. Overly expensive but, quality built. While the Xbox (and by the way it's Xbox not X-Box, XBox or X Box) is a nicely priced Crystler or Chevy which ever. You know it's going to last but there might be a few problems on the way to grandma's. The Ferrari (PS3) is overly extravagant for today's everyday driving (gaming). It may have a powerhouse engine (processor) and uses expensive fuels (HDTV) but not every gas-staion supplies it, so it's pointless so far in today's gaming. While the not so dependable Chevy (Xbox, By the way I've replaced mine 4 times but asked for compensation, which was PGR3, and Kameo) runs on regular and has the ability to run on both. Oh yeah the wii is some Flashy Jap car that is built to sell.

I have and still own an Xbox, 360, N64, Wii, and a GBA. Though my xbox had broke 4 times I kept it, and I think they've fixed most of the bugs because mine works fine and has been for a more than a year. As for the PS3 there are many reasons it hasn't shared the 360's success.

1) Xbox had a big lead by releasing a year earlier
2) PS3 Too expensive
3) Xbox/Wii Too affordable
4) Xbox Live is Phenomenal\While I hear PSN is lacking in well a lot
5) Lack of excluive games-PS3 has FF, MGS, GT(funny all those kindda suck)
6) Bad Marketing, Those commercials suck something fierce
7) SIXAXIS lame imitation of Wii motes and even wii motes have rumble
8) Sony acts like jerks - Unreal tournament was going to be on PS3 but after what someone from sony said they're have serious second thoughts.

I think what they said was that PS3 was the real next generation of gaming or something. When we all know an inanimate object can't have a generation because it has no Genes. And the real next generation has Patrick Stewart on the bridge of the USS Enterprise, but thats completely unrelated. Anyway I don't think playstaion should or will drop out of the gaming race, as many people have written before me Xbox needs Playstation for competition. But depending on whether or not sony smartens up It might und up being Nintendo and Xbox.

P.S.
Xbox 360 has many good upcoming titles, Banjo-Kazooie 3, Halo 3, Unreal Tournament 3(HMMMM lot of trilogies Eh?) Dead or Alive 4, Fable 2, Far Cry Instincts Predator, Gears of War 2, the list goes on. So to all those PS3 Fanboys who are xbox 360 haters, just STFU.

From B.C. and all of Canada
Peace

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Demonxxxx
June 29, 2007 at 05:17

@ ?Question Mark?

Halo 3 will sell millions. Yes it will be similar to halo 2 & halo 1. Why? Because its a sequal & comes from the SAME source material!

Look at mgs2 & mgs3. Mgs3 was made on the same engine as mgs2 & was nevertheless a continuation of the same game with a new story, moves etc. Thats what a sequal is!

Oh & its worth noting that even though mgs4 is going to be a high point for PS3 sales Halo 2 has sold more copies than each & every mgs game sold to date! (mgs2 was close (7.7million) but halo 2 sold MORE (in excess of 8 million!)) So stop ur bashing of halo because their are millions of people out their who can appreciate how good a game franchaise Halo actually is!

And even so, we don't need to 'cower' behind halo 3. There's plenty of other great quality games on the 360 and many more on their way!

And as for the PS3's marginally supierior technology this gen is not ready for all the PS3 has to offer. The vast majority of people wont want to move to HD for another few years. And I know that they wont want 2 trade in their massive standard DVD collections & replace them with HD or blue ray!

In time people will want what the PS3 has to offer but that wont happen for a number of years. And by then this gen will be over & they will have to start from scratch again. With the next Microsoft xbox & next PS3. Actually Microsoft have already started working on the next xbox which will take into account the minor advcantages of the PS3 & HD technology!

I'm not trying to bash sony's franchise (I own a ps1 & a ps2) but I'm sick of those sony retards talking shit about the 360. It IS a GREAT machine with GREAT games & GREAT services & is on par with everything the PS3 has to offer.

The PS3 & 360 need each other. Its just healthy competition!

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MikeDubbs
June 29, 2007 at 02:05

Ya know it's not like the PS3 is $600 or anything. Of course people are getting cheaper piece of equipment, UNTIL THEY GET THERE MONEY AND ALSO SELL THE 360 to get the Amazing piece of Equipment for the Future. I do like the 360 as well but I know in the future the PS3 will overcome all with it's technology.

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mizzikee
June 29, 2007 at 02:02

MODIOUS THANK YOU FOR SAYING WHAT YOU SAID. My console pwns your yours pwns mine blah blah blah SONY AND M$ NEED EACHOTHER OR ELSE WE END UP WITH WINDOWS VISTA. POINT AND CASE CLOSED!!!!

*Linux for the win*!

My consoles? N64 sitting next to my slimps2 sitting next to my PSP sitting next to my Xbox360 sitting next to my 42" Plasma. Drinking a cold bear enjoying some shit about loch ness monstersi downloaded off of XBL.

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BillyHo
June 29, 2007 at 00:42

Who buys a system now for what they might be able to play in the future? If you want to hold off and buy the system when games become available then I hear you. But buying the system for what little is offered now...? No current game is worth that single cost.

I don't know the figures for either system out the door when it launched. I don't care! I know I bought the system I have now to play games that I wanted to play. That is the bottom line.

If you think your system is better then mine then so be it. But don't spout ridicules banter of supposed future greatness based on advertising ploys which have been proven time and time again to be non fruitful.

If all you have is someoneâ€™s word that a system is going to be better in the future then you might want to rethink that money you're about to spend.

Why is the PS3 doing so poorly?

1.) It has NO software now.

2.) It is HUGE and hypocritically ignores that it's primary banter against the original XBox was for being HUGE.

3.) It's not affordable!!!! Why? Because it was forced by higher ups within the Sony Corp. to include a proprietary Blueray system in it to help alienate the HD competition. This is now coming back to haunt Sony.

4.) Sony is it's own competition. The PS2 is going to need to be discontinued before the PS3 will connect to the PS2 fans. In the interim the Wii has stolen much of the fanbase.

5.) The Wii again... it has regained the Japanese favor and has caused a whirlwind of speculation for Sony game systems in Japan. Sony pulled a MS. It thought it could bully the Japanese consumer and didn't bother to think about what they really want. SMALL and with games that are addictive and cute. I lived in Japan for 10 years and could have done a better job at reading the customers there then what they did!!!

6.) HYPE...! XBox had little to do with PS3 failing. You can't hype your system and what it offers then keep telling the customers to wait and see things get better in the future. You HAVE to deliver after you HYPE. Time kills...

7.) Exclusives! Sony is losing it's 3rd party exclusive support. Coming into the NEXT generation of gaming last gave XBox the time to build customers. Small companies are forced to go to the current customer base. Which is also meaning that smaller companies with fewer funds can often support only one system. And that system will be the one with the easiest to build for, the better customer support base and the tools to assist in production costs. (XNA)

8.) EA... The biggest thing SONY had going. But they did not get the same love they have gotten in the past from Sony. So they have determined that this round of console wars that they will wait and see. Sorry SONY.. DON KING (EA) has 2 guys in the fight and are getting paid either way.

9.) Kutaragi (should have left mid way through PS2); Stringer (One wrong move after another)

10.) Online! PS2s Online was a joke. PS3s...? It is just the same thing but with a new dress, still too ugly to take to the prom. FREE has NEVER equated to quality! Proprietary support for each games online service does not allow for community relationships to form across games. Preventing a LARGE portion of friend networking selling your software. Word of mouth is HUGE in advertising sales!!! Friends lists, communities, on-line support, and an MSN backbone to feed off of? How can you compete?

Last but not least... SONY does not have the endless money that can be put into it's system like the 360 does. It has to take chances that if they don't pan out then the red line inches closer. MS doesn't have this issue... if something does not work then they can drop endless amounts of money to correct the problems. The 360 is an advertising tool for MS and no console profit loss can out weigh the advertising familiarity that it is building with the generation of gamers.

Sony will be around for awhile to come but it will not be the easy leader role in the race. It has competition that has proven to win races before and that competition is currently in the lead and racing further ahead. XBox is wearing the yellow jersey and Sony...??? ...well they started drinking the champagne before the race started.

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Clayton Hank Norris Wade
June 28, 2007 at 22:19

Here there buddies all yall need to simmer down, dont catch a hart failure or somethin. I don know what all the griapin is bout just buy both them sombitches and call it a bbq. All yall faghtin over nothing lets all go out to town together and pick up what we dont have even if we got take it. This way we have both tem jokers and we have bbq.
LUV YALL

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?Question Mark?
June 28, 2007 at 22:07

ps3 will probably come out on top soon. (E3 will judge that). Sales are slow now, but many fans don't realize that the ps3 could be around for a long time since its so powerful it could go into the next gen of gaming, at least for a bit.

The reason why the majority of games on xbox 360 look better
(example.... something on both consoles, i can't think of something at the moment) is because the games are originally on the 360 then ported over to ps3...it has to put up with the crap from 360 so no wonder it doesn't look the same(after all, it is a totally different console.)

The games on ps3 will be much larger than 360...eventually, i mean the ps3 is just starting out, so it'll be a while longer to get up to its full potential.

honestly i don't know why wii has sold so many units. They say they have so many games compared to xbox360 and ps3. WHERE? ALL I CAN SEE ARE MINI GAMES! The few good games (zelda...etc) aren't in high numbers, i'd actually say sony has more. the only thing next gen about the wii is the controller....that'd be ok with some great looking games...seriously, i'm not exited at all about escape from bug island :(...resident evil 4 was ported over...play that instead. (cough* last gen cough*...still better than almost every wii game.)

I wish all the 360 fan boys would stop cowering behind halo 3 like it's the all time gaming god. They think just because of the name that it can't recieve any sort of critism. Halo 3 beta was halo 2 with rejected maps and weapons...it's like the EXACT SAME...i can't believe how many people are going to waste hundreds of hours on this game, in the big scheme of things it's such a waste of time...

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Norbit
June 28, 2007 at 21:59

Gordon.

You haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

HD flat-screens are now the biggest selling home televisions and over the next few years they will become even more popular. Why exactly do you think people are buying HD screens? For HD video, HD TV and HD games. Over the next 10 years the price of the PS3 will continue to drop like the PS2 did. That's what retards like you seem to be ignoring. The 360 will be dropped by Microsoft at some point in 5 years or so but the PS3 will still be sold long after that.

BTW you are right that most consoles are bought by family's. I certainly can't see pops going out and buying a console with an appalling history of breakdowns and customer service when he could buy one from Sony instead. The bad publicity for the 360 is getting worse and worse and the people who simply see a console as any other piece of home electronics (the majority of buyers) will avoid them like the plague.

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gordon
June 28, 2007 at 16:45

hello...hello?can i say something?norbit you are a tard."the average joe not knowing anything about anything else related to the console......."i hope there are no average joes reading this as they may be offended.are these average joes the fence sitting ps2 guys coming in to buy the new console for their ten year old kid?one of the reasons there are so many ps2,s sold worldwide is because of the price...FACT.you guys talk about the 10 bazzillion ps2 users forgetting that most of them are used by kids/familys.i cant really see pops shelling out all that cash just so his son can play the new harry potter on h.d.t.v.

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kingofgrills
June 28, 2007 at 15:20

This article, and countless others like it floating around the web, are utterly useless and just propogate the MS anti-PS3 agenda.

You admit the PS3 is so far matching the 360 out of the gate, and you call that a failure? The 360 didn't face any competition out of the gate. It was THE ONLY NEXT GEN SYSTEM available at the time. How is that not an advantage compared to the competition the PS3 faced from day one? The XBox 360 was not fully enabled from the start either, and several key features were enabled in later firmware updates. Plus, developers have already passed the learning curve on the 360, having Dev kits for over two years now. They haven't reached that point with the PS3 yet, but they will soon be there.

The PS3 is facing a fully mature system in the 360, and it is handling the competition well, especially given its higher price point and limited software so far. The software situation will quickly change though, with compelling titles such as LAIR, Metal Gear Solid 4, Little Big Planet, and Gran Turismo 5 releasing in the near future.

The Wii is in it's own world right now due to it's rock bottom price. It's hardware limitations will quickly slow it down though as the migration to HD continues to accelerate. Deny it all you want, but it's a slightly faster Gamecube with motion controllers. It doesn't belong in the same league as the XBox 360 or PS3.

I'm not saying the 360 is bad at all, because it's not. But I wouldn't call the PS3 a failure due to it's sales so far. It has outpaced both the PS2 and Xbox 360 during the same timeframe of their console lives, and that cannot be deemed a failure, especially given the competition it faces. Plus, the PS3 offers features not found built in other consoles such as a hard drive, Blu-ray and Super Audio CD playback, and those are notable advantages for the console.

Give it time before passing judgement.

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Bonsal
June 28, 2007 at 15:20

My problem with the PS3 is that everyone is like, just wait for the good games, like MGS4 to come out. But they keep getting delayed, and I mean buying a console for like 3 games is a bad move. I want a Wii, but the only games I'd want would be Zelda, and paper mario. So I'm waiting. But the PS3 only has like 15 games out or w/e, and only like 3 of them are original. Yeah, I want MLB the Show, but its not enough. I need Final Fantasies, and MGS4 like right now. Otherwise, I'm gonna invest in a 360 which works now, and which has so many games now. I want to play games. Not wait for corny knock offs that have sixaxis as a gimmick

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hey ben
June 28, 2007 at 15:20

strange ben, im in the same boat as you, same systems and everything, but one difference, i have a launch ps3(came with that ricky bobby thing) and a "launch" elite 360, but guess what, my ps3 is still fine, never had a problem, but my elite, is currently in for repair, as it busted playing gears, ya, thats right, one hour into a new system and it bricked on me, now i have disposible income so i dont mind, but if you truly want great qaulity and great games, buy a ps3, and leave the 360 to those that can handle being without it for months because of repair

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krakhead
June 28, 2007 at 15:20

Remember guys 2 to 3 yrs from now ps3 will shine, but that 2 to 3 yrs from now goes both way. If you think 360 is shine right now it will get shiner with a cheaper price. In a early statement it is said epic game used all the 360's power to make geow, I.... dont think so, epic made the game using 1 core and a couple threads of the system to make Geow while the system has 3 cores and six threads, what do you exactly mean by using all the power of the system to make Geow? Lost planet used 60% power of the and the game looks bloody good, halo3 will prbly use 75 % power of the system, then Geow2 and Ninja gaiden2 will use about 90 to 95 % power of the system. when I look @ the ps3 game list I dnt think none of them games will reach 80% power of the system, if so I'll be too bz playing next gen, unlike right now devs are using all the ps2's power to make game for it, those games are good , but i've already step from last gen to next gen. And and im afraid the same thing will happen 2 the ps3. Lol! Lol! Ok ps3 has a bluray player in it for six hundred $, while the x360 doesn't, but x360 has smething better than that, 1st you dnt need a hd player to watch a hgh def movie on the x360, 2nd you dnt need to go to blockbuster to rent a hd movie, it can all happen right there in the living room, and you watching the movie as you downloading it---->dnt have to wait, anndd how much to rent a HD movie from xbox live????? 3.99 to 4.99. cheaper than B.B. Thats what I call luxury. Now can the ps3 do all that? yes it can do it all, but the blu ray inside of it would become a waste for six00 buks, and there would be no reason for studio to suport bluray anymore. Just like last Gen, Hand to Cesar what belong to him-----> dats just the way I c things.

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krakhead
June 28, 2007 at 15:19

Remember guys 2 to 3 yrs from now ps3 will shine, but that 2 to 3 yrs from now goes both way. If you think 360 is shine right now it will get shiner with a cheaper price. In a early statement it is said epic game used all the 360's power to make geow, I.... dont think so, epic made the game using 1 core and a couple threads of the system to make Geow while the system has 3 cores and six threads, what do you exactly mean by using all the power of the system to make Geow? Lost planet used 60% power of the and the game looks bloody good, halo3 will prbly use 75 % power of the system, then Geow2 and Ninja gaiden2 will use about 90 to 95 % power of the system. when I look @ the ps3 game list I dnt think none of them games will reach 80% power of the system, if so I'll be too bz playing next gen, unlike right now devs are using all the ps2's power to make game for it, those games are good , but i've already step from last gen to next gen. And and im afraid the same thing will happen 2 the ps3. Lol! Lol! Ok ps3 has a bluray player in it for six hundred $, while the x360 doesn't, but x360 has smething better than that, 1st you dnt need a hd player to watch a hgh def movie on the x360, 2nd you dnt need to go to blockbuster to rent a hd movie, it can all happen right there in the living room, and you watching the movie as you downloading it---->dnt have to wait, anndd how much to rent a HD movie from xbox live????? 3.99 to 4.99. cheaper than B.B. Thats what I call luxury. Now can the ps3 do all that? yes it can do it all, but the blu ray inside of it would become a waste for six00 buks, and there would be no reason for studio to suport bluray anymore. Just like last Gen, Hand to Cesar what belong to him-----> dats just the way I c things.

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Lord Richard
June 28, 2007 at 15:19

Let's Face Reality! : XBOX 360 is going to rule the market of consoles for at least 2 more years and for that time PS3 will desapear as the Dreamcast did, that's why third party developers are quiting on the PS3 for example: DEVIL MAY CRY now is on 360 also and HAZE etc......
And Wii is also going to crush the PS3 because they invented the ORIGINAL MOTION CONTROLLER not like sony that only stole the idea at the last minute that's why sixaxis is trash and WII MOTE RULES.
For the time that HOME is completly ready Xbox Live will reach the 8 MILLION users and no one will care on HOME because 6 month later after the realease of HOME Sony will start to charge for it and nobody will care.
By the time Wii will realease Great Games as Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Mario Galaxy and a game From Lucas Arts with Light Sabers using the Wii Mote and that will make that sixaxis look ridiculous.
Sony will continue loosing Millions of dollars on the PS3 even if Blu-Ray wins because nobody cares about Blue Ray and HD-DVD YET, DVD will continue ruling the market for at least 2 years also that's why XBOX 360 didn't suport it for games they were smarter than sony in that way also.
Then 6 months later after the realease of MGS4 Konami will anaunce an Improved version for XBOX 360!!!!!!!!
Sony will try to fix the MGS4 problem with new content for Killzone 2 that will be rated by EGM with: 7.5, 7, 7 and the new content will be worst.
Wii will introduce new revolucionary franchyses for kids and some Hardcore gamers, that will make them stronger even if their graphics are not of 3rd Generation.
Sony will try to combat this with weird games with no popularity like AFRIKA and PapaRoach.
So thereÂ´s no hope for PS3 this time they are not finishing the console race because they didn't played their cards on the right way, forcing consumers to acept a new format for comercial porpouses of other divisions of Sony, selling their console at a ridiculous price in other regions of the planet for example: MEXICO: $1200-$1500 us, Australia $900 etc.... And for last believing that they didn't had any good competition.

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Ben
June 28, 2007 at 14:00

Man lets get some facts straight the Xbox 360 did well for these reasons. 1 no other next generation console was available at the time of the 360's release so it had no compitition. 2. the sales were swayed by faulty systems due to Company's that were replacing the faulty systems with new ones had to take the out of there own stock and record that as an actual sale. So ask yourself this How many dose that actauly represent. Find out for yourself do the research yourself.
The PS3 has been doing fine even though it got unneeded bad press. The press was really stretching to find anything wrong with the systems and. certainly never exposed anything worthwhile. So you tell me Do you real trust that MS has been supplying you with a good quality systems ,or has Sony.

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archpsyker
June 28, 2007 at 13:59

I agree with the lack of games on the PS3 versus the Xbox 360. Microsoft took some time to get a few good games out on the 360, so will Sony.

I own a 60g PS3 and Xbox 360 Elite. Only things that really have me looking forward to owning a PS3 in the future are the following.

1) EA stated that they are only using 20% of the PS3's power. If they are only using 20% imagine what happens when they use more.

2) Crytek is looking for PS3 console programmers to work with CryEngine 2.0. This is the same engine that Crysis for PC is using. Could possibly result in a PS3 release of Crysis? Maybe.

3) PS3 Home. I think there is some potential here. Waiting for the public beta to make my decision.

Problems I see is that Microsoft has the upper hand at the moment. Easier to program games for, mainly because of the PS3 Cell processor. Xbox Live is way better then the PSN. Music can be played in games and universal friends list.

As far as graphics both systems can have problems. Graphics are partially determined on the level of hardware, but if the programmer does a bad job at it then even on the best systems graphics can look horrible. I've seen bad graphics on the PS3, example being F.E.A.R., didn't really live up to the PC version. Yet, I've seen problems on the Xbox 360 also. Quake IV has bad frame rates and doesn't view certain areas as well as the PC version. My biggest disappointment was in Gears honestly. Graphically appealing but I've had a few levels that didn't get 100% drawn out while playing and a few times when characters when into dialogue they would disappear for the duration of the dialogue.

Only thing I'm waiting on this year is E3 to see what both companies bring to the table.

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Darryn
June 28, 2007 at 12:16

@ Norbit

Laugh at Mass Effect all you want, its an original IP at least, and from none other than BioWare who have proven to know what they're doing in the RPG market.

The titles you name for great expectations on PS3 are all sequels :p says something for the platform currently.

@ Josh

The size of disc space available is a pretty moot point when it comes to the efforts of 3rd parties. So PS3 version can fit on the 1 disc? where as x360 takes 2... the horror.

Yes there is a large market of ps2 fans who are fence sitters or even crossed platform for the moment (where you think wii's sales are coming from exactly?), but will they arrive to the ps3 soon enough? its catch 22 isnt it...

3rd parties arent going to push PS3 exclusives unless the consumer base is there, and the consumers arent going to move over to PS3 until these greatly expected exclusives arrive (which as I said earlier isnt enough off sony's 1st party efforts alone).

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Darryn
June 28, 2007 at 12:16

@ anyone who cares to listen :p

I dont think anyone seriously suggests the PS3 is dead in the water currently, or will continue to be through its entire lifecycle. Sony will have there moment in the sun, eventually, they just wont cast a shadow as wide and darkening as the PS2 over the xbox & game cube.

We've chosen our horse (mostly) and some have even put a bet each way, so these arguements are largely unnecessary. But we all dont take kind to our preferred platform being flamed in some way, and yes the blame comes from both sides of fans.

This generation of consoles is the most interesting yet, we all see that. Its great that developers now have the power cross board to realise the visions they've been holding in till now.

Sony's marketing and PR has been disasterous, which is why xLovers dig into the giant, and why you sony fans take offense. In the end its all in gest, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Happy gaming all.

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krakhead
June 28, 2007 at 12:16

Guys, Guys, A road goes both way, Even if sony drop the price of the ps3, it still gonna be the same thing. Picture this ps3 go down at 400$, 360 will follow @ 250$ and wii 199.99$ lol maybe lower. 4get about what sony/ms says; You and I know it 360 and ps3 are even as far as quality, now who in the hell will buy the 400$ one over 250$ one. Cause right now only a few buying the 600 0ne over the 400 one and it always going to be the same as long as Ms keep a 150/200$ gap in between the 2 consoles.

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Jack
June 28, 2007 at 11:45

The ps3 is not going to do as well because the graphics are actually worse then what you get on the 360, not better (check out any head to head HD video on IGN or or anywhere else, the 360 is clearly the winner in 99% of the cases, oblivion being the one exception I have seen), people are paying 200$ extra for a blue ray player with limited online capability.

That being said they do have some good games coming out and a strong fan base, and a more reliable console, they are going to be number 3 unless they get their manufacturing costs down and make it cheaper.

Better graphics, and exclusive games which were supposed to be big selling points, are not proving to be, with games looking better on the 360, and exclusives jumping ship.

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