You’re helping a lot of people make their movies these days. You’re producing like a ton of different…
I just went to visit a set in LA the other day for a movie that…

Which one?
It’s called Camp X-Ray. My good buddy from college, Pete Sattler, is on production on it right now. It stars Kristen Stewart, about Guantanamo detainees. It’s really awesome.

Holy crap.
Yeah, it looks great. He used to be my props guy. I went to college with him and it’s just really amazing just watching him work as a director as opposed to a props guy or graphic designer, all of the different jobs he’s had. I come from a community of really supportive people that are always looking. You know, there are so many movies that we all want to make, you have to bring more people into the making part, like you need a lot of people to make your movies. Like me and Craig Zobel wrote a horror movie and I was reading it the other day and we were talking and he was like, “Man, I don’t know.” I said, “If you don’t want to make this, maybe I’ll make it. If you don’t have time, what if I did that or what if we give that to so and so, our other buddy?” You know, it’s kind of fun to have people that you can say, we need to accomplish a lot as a collective, very casually, and so, the more people we have working, the more we get done, the greater legacy we leave behind.

Do you think its easier to get these smaller movies made now than it was when you first started?
I don’t know. I think it’s easier to make them, but I don’t think it’s easier to get them made. I think I got out by the skin of my teeth, in terms of making money in a business that’s model is totally crumbling.

So, you feel like you were making more money from what you were doing. It was harder to get it made, but once you did it…
I was surviving. I’ve survived as, since my second movie, I’ve survived as a …

Only as a filmmaker.
Only as a filmmaker. I started doing commercials after my third movie and then that made it, that made me a normal life.

But yeah, its much harder now to get distributors, I mean, think about how many movies go to Sundance every year and how many of them sell and then how many of them actually have a theatrical exposure and how many of those actually do well.

Yeah, but you do get some of them VOD. You’ve got a lot more options.
That’s a revolutionary thing that’s happening right now, but the perception of that is in transition, like when people make box office reports, how do they take into account how many, they don’t, those numbers aren’t announced on Friday afternoon like the rest of them are, so it’s like trying to accept the changing perception. The media doesn’t quite know how to wrap it’s head around it yet.

Does that blow your mind, as someone who didn’t grow up in a city, that people can get that stuff on VOD, like when you think about what you went through to get access to small movies like that?
Oh, it’s pretty amazing. Actually yesterday, I spent a while thinking about this, if I’d even had the Internet as a kid, it would have been bad news because I was a sponge of a hundred percent of things movie related that I could get my hands on. And I succeeded in that from about age 6 until I went to college, and then that world opened up to libraries. But like, I mean, I would go to the library every Thursday and read a Variety that was three weeks old and read everything, cover to cover. It would take me two hours to read it.

This was when you were a kid?
Yeah, I mean in like fifth grade, I’d go to the library to read. I knew more about the box office from 1986 to 1996. Now everybody knows about that kind of shit, but at that time nobody knew how much Goodfellas made or Dream Team made at the box office. I can tell you everything about the summer of 1987, I can tell you how much The Untouchables made or the Snow White rerelease and Full Metal Jacket and Dragnet and Innerspace and all these movies that were, I was just kind of geeking out at a place where my brain was so hungry for new information but there wasn’t all that access. I mean Premiere magazine came out, I have every issue of that magazine from ’87 until I went away to college. I was just so hungry for it, but if I had Internet access and could google an interview with a filmmaker I liked, it would have been over. I probably wouldn’t have been very productive.

Yeah, you probably never would have gone to college. You would have just been on the internet.
I would have just bugged out and not had a social life and not had, I mean, I worked all of the time. So I had jobs and chased girls and played soccer, on the soccer team, and I probably wouldn’t have had any of those activities, because my passion for filmmaking was too intense.

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