Practically nobody in the world recognizes his face or even his voice, but it's undeniable that Andy Serkis was one of the biggest stars on hand at this year's Tribeca Film Festival. The man who created Gollum and King Kong for Peter Jackson hasn't found similar fame for roles as actual humans, despite decades in the film industry, but that may be about to change with Sex&Drugs&Rock&Roll, a biopic of punk rocker Ian Dury that already landed Serkis a BAFTA Award nomination when it opened in the U.K. last year.

The film, which documents Dury's stint with the band Ian Dury & The Blockheads and all the nasty rock star behavior that came with it, is by no means a traditional biopic, incorporating everything from flashbacks to hallucinatory music performances at the bottom of the pool to get the audience properly within Dury's head. All the visual experimentation comes from director Mat Whitecross, who makes his narrative directing debut after experience in documentaries, but Serkis's lightning-bolt performance brings in a lot of the weird too.

You can read my review of the film here, then check out the short interview I did with Serkis and Whitecross. I started by asking them about the first draft of the film, which left out some of Dury's nastiest behavior, and how Dury's own family told them they could show even more. We also talked about some of the more surreal and inventive moments of the film and Serkis's connection to the character. It was a quick chat, but you probably already know it's worth watching. Take a look below.