Interview: Easy A's Stanley Tucci
Being a 23 year old male, I was probably never the target demographic for Will Gluckís Easy A. From the outside, it looks like your typical female-led high school comedy, a sub-genre that, with few exceptions, is not filled with the most esteemed films. The truth is that Easy A is actually quite entertaining and, at times, hilarious, and though his role in the film is small, Stanley Tucci plays a big part of that.
Playing Emma Stoneís dad and pairing up long-time friend Patricia Clarkson, Tucci plays a role that we donít typically see. Heís not the overbearing zealot who makes his daughterís life miserable and heís not the laid back hippy who lets his daughter do whatever she wants. Heís (gasp!) a normal dad with an amicable relationship with his children. But be sure to not confuse ďnormalĒ with ďboringĒ because he provides some of the filmís greatest moments.
Getting a chance to sit down with the actor, he talked about how his character relates to his own life with his family, what it was like working with the director, and his somewhat embarrassing failings with technology.
So Will was just talking these half-an-hour takes, and in some cases...
First of all, Will is a pathological liar. Except for when he talks about all the good stuff about me.
He didnít say anything about you.
He didnít? Well, itís been nice talking to you. Yeah, we did have these long takes. And heís great that way, because I love to work that way and it was so much fun. And heís right there, very connected to what youíre doing and heís not sitting back at the monitors eating a sandwich.
And the result feels so genuine on screen.
Iím glad. Heís a wonderful director. Wonderful.
You have a great relationship with Patricia Clarkson on-screen, you guys have a good relationship off-screen as well, did you guys mutually decide that you were interested in this movie?
Separately, but we have the same agent. So when he told me, he said they had also have offered Patty the role of the wife, and I called her, after I read it, and I said, ďRead this right away. We have to do this movie.Ē And we did. Sheís great.
What was it about the script that immediately struck you that this is a must?
It was so funny and so smart and I had never read anything like it. Not that I hadnít done a teen movie or something, but it was just so smart.
Parables arenít always as fleshed out as this. Was it surprising to you that this was as meaty as it was?
Thereís not that much there, really. The great thing was they werenít trying to explain anything. Suddenly you cut to a scene with these characters and there just behaving as though everyone knows them and it worked. Doesnít always work, but it worked. Itís because of the very naturalistic aspect of it and also humor. Everything is told through their humor, which you believe.
Right, well what Iím saying is no exposition as far which usually thereís this build up to.
It explains Emmaís character.
Absolutely, how she becomes who she is, exactly.
Do you think that especially because youíre only in a handful of scenes having that relationship with Patricia helped you guys?
Without question because then we could also improvise very easily together. And if you have someone who maybe isnít comfortable improvising or you donít know each other very well, but Patty and I know each other so well that we can play off one another. People think that weíre a married couple sometimes.
And bringing Emma into that relationship, did you guys do anything special to try and bond with her?
No, you donít have to do anything to bond with Emma, because sheís bondable. Sheís so easily bondable. Sheís just right there, sheís just very present. She has an incredible sense of humor, sophisticated, cheap sense of humor, just like me and Patty. So it was easy.
The whole film reminded me of Hollywood, if you do something wrong they castigate you and ostracize you, can you comment on that?
I agree. Hollywood is a little like high school.
Was it something you thought of when you read the script?
No, not really. But everybody remembers being in high school and being uncomfortable about being in high school, and this was just a very funny expression of that.
Will was just talking about working with Justin Timberlake and his transition from pop star to actor. You just finished Burlesque, right? Christina Aguilera, what was that experience like for you?
It was great, she was wonderful, but she never made a movie before. There were certain things that she just didnít know, just technical things that she didnít know. But, you know, you learn them pretty quickly, and God knows sheís a performer. Iíve never seen anything like that. Staggering, her singing and dancing. Sheís this sweet littleÖsheís this big [places flat hand about three feet above the floor]. It was weird. They were like, ďThereís Christina Aguilera,Ē I was like, ďWhere? That child?Ē Sheís very sweet, very quiet and then she starts to sing and dance and youíre like, ďWhere the fuck did that come from?Ē Iíve never seen anything like it. Iíve never seen a transformation like that. It talked about it with Cher. How does she do that? Cher goes, ďI donít know. I donít know how she does that.Ē
So much fun.
Was that the main reason to sign on?
Yeah, kind of, yeah. It was, I love her. She hasnít made a movie in ten years.
So was everything and how did it come together?
Oh my God, it was so much fun. It was great, sheís one of the funniest people Iíve ever met. I mean, I always knew she was funny, like she had a great sense of humor, but sheís really funny. Very funny.
And stories to tell, I suppose.
Lots of stories to tell, yes. Lots of stories to tell.
Is Christina a good actress? Whatís her role exactly in the film?
She plays a small town girl who really wants to sing and dance and she comes to L.A. and she finds this burlesque house and ends up working there as a waitress and then, eventually, everyone realizes how talented she is and she kind of saves the day. Itís good. Sheís sweet.
How much improv was there and how much did you bring to your character?
There was a lot of improv. We did what was there, in the scripts, but then, what Will was saying with the takes, and then weíd just start making stuff up. And go in the script, out of the script, in and out. So he had a variety of stuff in the editing room. And, as I said, with Patty itís easy, the two of us can start talking and never stop. When you say action, weíll just start talking, and then when you say stop weíll stop. If you donít say stop we wonít stop. Even if you say stop we might not stop.
The whole interaction with your adopted son was great.
So absurd. It is exactly the way I deal with my children, though, and Iím not kidding. It really is. Saying to my kids, ďWhere are you from originally?Ē I do say that to them. Thatís why I said it to the kid. I used to do it to my wife all the time. Sheíd be talking about something very serious and Iíd just look at her and go, ďWhere are you from originally?Ē Sheíd be talking about some political cause or something.
Is that the danger of comedy? You never quite know if it will work until you see it?
Yeah, itís up to Will. Itís up to him in the editing room. But you just do what you think is right at the time and feel it out. And sometimes, look, letís face it, sometimes things that are funny to you on-set, the crew is laughing, everybodyís laughing, and then you get in the editing room and itís like, thatís not that funny. We all thought it was funny. Itís like I said to the actors, I just directed this Broadway show this Spring that just closed, once we opened I sat down with everybody, it was a farce, so I said, ďLook, hereís the thing. As we know, as this play goes on, as this production goes on, whatís going to happen is youíre going to start to get bored and youíre going to start to invent things to occupy yourselves. But you have to remember why youíre here. Who are you entertaining? Are you entertaining yourself, are you entertaining each other, or are you entertaining the audience? So every time you think itís the first two, youíre wrong.Ē Because, inevitably, you do you get bored. ďLetís see if I can make him laugh in this scene. Letís see if I can get him to smile when I say that line. Or Iím really bored, let me try this.Ē But, really, it has to be about the audience. The same in a film. You sit there and entertain yourselves on the set as much as you want, but, in the end, itís just like a masturbatory exercise.
So not. Iím so not, itís really bad. I know how to use the computer in a very simple way. I only recently, this is pathetic, I only recently realized that you could have one window open and then open another window. I swear to God. Like six months ago. ďOh, thatís how people do that.Ē Of course I would never ask anyone. I would never read the instructions. I have a Blackberry and I have an iPhone, but Iím kind of too afraid to use the iPhone. So it just sort of sits there a lot of the time. And then, if I canít get it to work I [fumbles with imaginary phone] whatever.
I do text. I text on the Blackberry. I text, I email and I Skype my kids when Iím away. And Iím always so proud when I downloaded something. My poor assistant, itís pathetic. Itís pathetic.
When youíre taking half-hour shots, as you did on this film, are you ever surprised by what you end up seeing on screen and what hit the cutting room floor?
Yeah, you always are. Thatís why I wanted to make my own movies. In the end, itís the directorís movie. He has to do whatever he thinks is best. What Will did here is great.
Is there anything specifically you can think of that got cut that you would have liked to see in the final product?
No, I think just about everything we did was in there. Well, not everything, pieces of everything, because we had so few scenes. I only have, like, three scenes in the movie.
You seem so fearless in all of the roles you take on. Whatís the biggest fear you have in your life?
Not working. Regarding show business?
Oh, my kids. Something happening to my kids, thatís my biggest fear. And after thatís not working. Thereís a big leap there, a big gap.
Youíve been on sort of a role lately.
I know, I know. Itíll end. Now I know that this is the way it goes. Itís fine. Now itís great, in two years people will go like, ďEh, we donít want him. Weíre tired of him.Ē It happens and Iím prepared for it. I hope it doesnít.
Yes, I have a number of movies I want to do and one weíre in development with Sony to do a movie called Mommy and Me that Iíll direct with Tina Fey and Meryl Streep. So weíre talking to writers this week and hopefully weíll have a script by Christmas or something like that. Because we want to do it next summer.
What is it about?
I canít tell you anything about it, really, because I donít know anything about it because thereís no script.
Since youíve worked with Meryl as a co-star, directing her must be an exciting prospect.
I canít wait to do it. I canít wait to do it. I canít wait to torture her.
Do you really have to direct Meryl?
No, I donít have to direct her. She doesnít need direction. You could just say, ďDo it a different way now.Ē And then sheíll do that. ďOkay, try one a different way.Ē Okay, yeah. What are you going to tell her? What are you going to tell her? ďJust move your head a little because the lights in yourÖĒ What are you going to say?
You go from The Lovely Bones, to this, to Burlesque, a lot of young performers. Is there something that all young performers that all young performers that have promise have? Is there something that you can recognize?
Well, thereís a number of things. They have a very strong sense of self and they are very self-assured, but not arrogant. They have a natural ability to be truthful, but they also have a technique that most people only acquire after years of being in show business. Emily Blunt is the same way. When I met Emily she was probably 23 or something like that. I could not believe she was 23 years old. She became one of my dearest friends and Iím old enough to be her father. And yet I could not believe that this person was 23 years old, she was so mature. So funny, so well read, so bright, so secure with herself. Emmaís the same way. Saoirse Ronan, who is 16 now? Unbelievable. But theyíre very wise. They were born wise. That old soul. Saoirse has it, Em has it, Emma has it. Itís great.
The Emmys are tonight, are there any shows that you are rooting for?
Not really, I donít watch that much TV, Iíll be honest with you. But I hope they all win.
Would you ever want to direct some TV?
Iíve been asked to direct stuff on TV, but not really. Steve Buscemi, whoís my business partner and my friend, he directs a lot of TV. Heís really, really good at it too. Iím kind of too nervous to do it.
He has a new show, Boardwalk Empire.
I know, Iím excited to see it. That I want to see.
You see so many actors today moving to TV, whether itís HBO or AMC. Is that just a grown reality of the business?
It is and itís great. Personally I think itís fantastic, it didnít use to be that way. When I first started in this business you were a theater actor, you were a TV actor, or you were a movie actor. And now, finally, in the last, probably, seven years or so, itís really started to change. HBO changed that. HBO changed that and a lot of things, but that is a huge gift to show business because it raises the quality of everything and the stigma of being a TV actor has disappeared. The stigma of being just a theater actor has disappeared. Itís all mixed up. And thatís the way it always was in England. In England, Ian Holm would do a Shakespearean play on stage, he would go do a TV show, episodes of TV shows, and then he would go do a movie. And Helen Mirren, same thing. It was just, ďIím doing this because this is interesting and I also have to make some money. And then Iím going to do a play where Iím not going to make money. And then Iím going to do a movie where I might not make some money, but maybe I will make some money.Ē Thatís the way it is. Itís so much healthier now. Itís great. You can go do a TV series, have a good time. Most are better written than some movies.
A number of them, yeah.
Are you working different muscles when you do that type of thing?
Not necessarily, only in the sense that TV shoots pretty quickly. And if youíre doing something like ER, you have to memorize medical terms, which is almost impossible. This is why, a lot of times, lines are written on the patientís neck. Or wherever.
Well, yeah. You canít remember it. How are you supposed to remember it? Youíre not a doctor. The guy who was the consultant on it, he said, ďLook, you go to medical school, itís like youíre learning a completely different language.Ē He said, ďWe have so many words in our vocabulary and then thereís this whole other vocabulary thatís just medical.Ē So you have to learn a whole new language. So youíre learning thousands of words that are just another language. So when youíre acting that, youíre given these words and youíre like, ďWhat the fuck is that? Thatís not a word that I know.Ē Itís a different language. And then to try to remember it and to try and make it make sense, and be real is close to impossible. That was the one thing for me that was really, really hard I have to say. Because itís not emotionally connected too. Itís completely technical, thereís no emotional connection to ďintubate.Ē Thereís nothing to ďhemangiopericytoma.Ē Thereís no connection to that. Which is a kind of brain tumor, just in case you wanted to know. So you are working different muscles, and youíre working very quickly, but also in independent films youíre working very quickly too. But I love doing those. I love doing ER and doing those arcs. They are very fun.
So beside Burlesque and directing Meryl Streep what else do you have coming up?
Thereís a movie I did called Margin Call with Paul Bettany and Kevin Spacey and Demi Moore, and I donít know when thatís coming out, that will be out next year. Itís a very independent, very interesting movie about the collapse of a financial institution. And then Iím doing, Iím in the middle of shooting Captain America, which always sounds funny when you say it. And I always love when people go, ďAre you playing Captain America?Ē What do you think? So Iím doing that right now in London.
How big is your role in Captain America? Youíre playing the doctor who gives Cap his powers.
Dr. Erskine, yeah. Itís about six scenes, maybe. Something like that. Really well written script, really well written.
Do you have a nineteen picture deal with Marvel like everybody else?
No, no. Thereís a thing you sign if you do a sequel youíre salaryís kind of already negotiated. Which is very smart of them to do. But no I donít, no. Iíd like to.
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