Joker Scenes Cut From The Dark Knight?

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1. Joe Potochar Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:06

   I agree with you. Leave the scene in the movie. Like you said it is Heath's last film and should be celebrated the way he acted it. Leave it alone-it is pure genius!!!!!

1. Keith Ottman Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:06

   We, as the fans and revenue source for those uptight Hollywood moguls, must DRAW THE LINE HERE. If we can make enough noise, perhaps some degree of integrity can be salvaged. Everyone who is emotionally invested in this picture and its outcome would certainly agree that Nolan and his team should not be edited, censored or in any other way impeded in this venture. We cannot sit back quitely with the consolation that the scenes will be reinstated for the DVD release. I want the best picture the creators can produce when I pay to see it on opening night. I'm sure I am not alone in this desire. LET'S MAKE SOME NOISE!!!

1. Jon Player Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:07

   I agree you cant cut out this scene for the sake over a few over sensitive pussys!
   Heath read the script and made the art and as his last performance nothing should be cut.
   Respect the man as an actor he did the scene and his full role in the movie should be shown as a tribute to his life and work. Nothing should be left out or forgotten.
   If it's an issue to people then i suggest those people excercise their free right not to see the movie!

1. David Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:07

   I agree with you Stuart. They didn't cut any of the scenes of Brandon Lee from The Crow, and he died during the filming of the movie itself.

1. Pakman Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:07

   DONT CUT IT!!!! ive warned-a-brotha. :|

1. Big-John Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:07

   Couldn't agree more, Cutting his work just because someone's delicate nature may be damaged is popycock.... I am sure ledger would want the scene in the film... they should keep it just to show the caliber of his work and the dedication he had to his craft.

1. Steven Gilpin Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:07

   Mr. Wood,
   I completely agree. It's a movie! These are fictional characters. It is deeply upsetting that Heath Ledger died so young, and I don't want to marginalize that. However, if people can't stomach a scene that parallels real life, they probably shouldn't be watching movies; they should seek professional help.

1. Spagett Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:07

   I totally agree. This incredible movie will show Ledger's true potential. Chris Nolan has a talent for picking the perfect actors for perfect roles. To deprive an audience of seeing just a few clips's of this visionary director's final product would be greatly unfair.

1. Matt Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:17

   Amen, Stuart. You are so right. It is horrible that Ledger died. However, it would be awful to cut one of his last scenes due to some people being overly sensitive. Let us stand up and demand that Warner Brothers give us EVERY available second of Heath Ledger's Joker. I will miss Ledger and the best Joker portrayal that we could have hoped for.
   
   

1. Glenn Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:32

   please, Warners, PLEASE don't butcher this movie! i want to see Nolan's vision and Heath's performance the way it was meant to be seen. damn i can't wait to see this movie, and if it's as good as all the early screenings hint it will be, i will be on Cloud 9. i hope Nolan fights to keep the scene in.

1. SeanO Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 13:35

   People are allowed to die in movies, even if they die in real life. In the movie "The Crow" Brandon Lee was seen dying not once, but twice in the film.

1. TrinaG Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:27

   Granted,the sensitivity experienced by some for this particular scene is well understood,but damn,grow some balls,why don't you!!!! I agree with all above,this was Heath's most daring and challenging,most legendary roll,let's not go deleting scenes because of a few wussies.True,we all miss Heath,and his unexpected death was beyond heartbreaking,but unless this scene would be understandably hurtful for Heath's family,and the fans for that matter,then I don't see any other reason to take this scene out of the movie.I'm sure Heath would've wanted it this way,he was a real man.

1. Gunblazer Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:27

   Leave the movie alone, its part of his legacy, he did the scene so everyone could see it. Keep ya hands off!!

1. Dave D Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:27

   > 1. Joe Potochar Says:
   > April 10th, 2008 at 13:06
   
   > Leave it alone-it is pure genius!!!!!
   
   Not sure if it's pure genius because I haven't seen it; rest assured I'm probably going to watch it 15 times (like the first Nolan Batman)...and love it. I'm in agreement with everyone here, and as things go, the reactionary B.S. Stuart talks about in this article is most likely par and not much more than an afterthought of one of the beancounters. As in, "let's get people to buy the first DVD of the theatrical release, THEN we'll spring the 'Director's Cut' on them! Give me a raise." Feh.
   
   > 1. Spagett Says:
   > April 10th, 2008 at 13:07
   >Chris Nolan has a talent for picking the perfect actors for perfect roles. To >deprive an audience of seeing just a few clips's of this visionary director's >final product would be greatly unfair.
   
   Let's hope it isn't the director's final product! I'm sure he's still got a few movies left in 'im.

1. Jokes Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:27

   Does anyone have any contact info such as an e-mail address for Warner Brothers? We have to nip this in the bud.

1. Mrshock13 Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:28

   I agree wholeheartedly. The fact that Mr. Ledger's interpretation of the Joker has gotten me more excited than ANY supervillain in ANY movie so far in my life says something. The Batman is my favorite hero, and the Joker is his arch enemy-he's completely psychopathic, deranged, and homicidal. This Joker is the one that Batman fans love, because he's the character that helps define who and what Batman is and does. The fact that Heath Ledger played this role to the point where it seems as though this is the first true representation of the REAL Joker is a testament to his acting abilities, and removing any part of his work would destroy the massive achievement that he accomplished, and the magnificent piece of work that he's bringing to people around the world.

1. George Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:28

   I agree with everyone on here, Ledger looks like he pulled off the best performance of the year and to cut that down would be an insult to his memory. I am a huge batman fan anyway and i just want to see the movie as it is. Cutting this scene out would not only take away from Ledger's performance, but it would also take away something from the movie itself! Leave it Be!

1. Conor Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:28

   Completly agree. I don't think Heath would want them to take scenes out of his breakthrough role, just because he had an accidental death. He would want this movie to be the best it could be, and that is what Nolan did. DONT FUCK IT UP!

1. Bennet Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:28

   Um... I doubt they would be that misguided. As Heath Ledger's last COMPLETE performance (not counting the partial work done in the Imaginarium) they would be dishonoring his memory by hampering that performance. The trouble would be if they were exploiting his death, but the performance was conceived and delivered before he died, so it's clearly not a case of exploitation but merely a case of respecting the original artistic intent of the performance, despite any unintended irony.
   
   I think calling the supposed move by the studio reactionary is the pot calling the kettle black a little bit, since getting people riled up about something that hasn't even and probably will never be done seems a bit needlessly alarmist. On what basis does the scooper claim to know what the studio is thinking? because he attended a screening? Provide a better foundation for the rumor if you really want to get people riled up.

1. TORC Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:28

   Depends how much it'll fuck up the story-but think about it -films released with cuts,then DVD/B-Ray hits retail,then (drum roll)18 months down the line directors cut hits(with no cuts,and when Ledgers memory is fading)the cash is a cuming to the good ol' warner boys?!Me thinks so ..............................

1. col Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:28

   It's not true that the Brandon Lee scene was left in "The Crow". Check out Snopes.

1. Observer Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:28

   Isn't the character 'The Joker' supposed to scare us in the first place?So why cut a scene that emphasises that scariness?By cutting that scene they would take away more credibility,wich Ledger accuired threw his tragic death.

1. Sam Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:29

   Meh I haven't seen the movie or the scenes in question so I don't have an opinion. As anybody even mildly familiar with film knows there are several scenes that get cut from most early test screenings for any number of reasons.
   
   I can't speak for how the scene(s) in question play out in context to the rest of the movie and what importance if any they have to the films overall plot so I will with hold judgment. I do hope the final decision about what is done with this scene is made by the directors and writers though and not a studio exec or producer.

1. yo Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:29

   Brazilian people are too happy people. They don´t use to watch dark films, that´s why they´ve reacted like that. So, leave that damned scene in, for god´s sake!!!!

1. Caleb Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:29

   Please, just let the man's work speak for itself- judged solely on it's unedited, unbiased, unforgiving performance-tailored merits, which would do nothing but honor his memory by showing the people his own incarnation of the clown prince in what is sure to be Heath's crowning and everlasting mark left on a world that he left much too soon. Show some respect to this actor. Let Heath have his final curtain call, shown in its entirety.

1. Shatter 24 Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 15:36

   Let the movie be as it was intended. Perhaps a little shock to the audience will be good, the Joker is not a hero but a monster. We should shutter at his depiction, not make him palatable to everyone (watering down a perhaps Oscar worthy performance?). Leave the movie be or you are doing a disservice to Nolan, Bale, Ledger and everyone involved in its making.

1. Jakob Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 17:01

   Oh my God....I don't know what else to wright-because you all have already said it all.So please, Chris Nolan, think about this.Don't spoil the movie for the fans because of a few people with weak nerves.And think about Heath...how dissapointed he'd be if he'd known that someone wants to change the performance he was so prod of??? Another thing, why do all the studios keep spoiling movies(in this era of 'teenagers=money) with the rating PG13???Didn't this cut a lot of Die Hard4??? I personally would prefer rating R for TDK.And actually who cares??? Won't the the kids go to cinema anyway???So plese stop doing this please...that's my opinion

1. Tod Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 17:01

   Please leave the scenes in. the joker is possibly one of the hardest roles to play. and if the romours are true about his performance. Let us enjoy the talents of a flame too soon extingushed. As haunting, and creepy as it might be: it so suits the character. The Joker.

1. Megan Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 17:01

   I agree, 100%.
   
   Ledger was a brilliant actor, and when I saw the previews for this film - with HIM - I knew I had to see it. I still haven't seen Batman Begins, despite that I wanted to, but after the preview of this film, I know I simply have to see this. THere's no way out.
   
   I think that Warner should definately keep Ledger's scenes, no matter how "upsetting" they could be to those who think it distasteful. If you can't get in and through your mind that Ledger was a brilliant actor, and that this scene being in the movie is something he probably WANTED [otherwise, do you really think he'd have filmed it AT ALL?], then perhaps You truly dont' deserve to sit in a theater, or a room of any size, where this movie is being shown. Simple as that.
   
   It's not easy, hell, it's BEYOND difficult, to capture the essence of the Joker as well as Ledger has done, and I'm judging this pretty much just from the previews I've seen across the internet & the television. Ledger knew what he was doing when he was filming this role, and I bet you, ANYTHING, if Ledger hadn't liked something, he would have said "Hey!" and at least talked to someone about changing the scene, or making it a "deleted scene" on the dvd, or some BS.
   
   If you have a problem with the scene, hey, then DON'T SEE THE DAMN MOVIE!
   It's not hard! Plus, it'd save you about, oh, 7 bucks [depedning on what time you see the flick]. Look at it as a positive for ya, ya sissies.

1. Tod Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 17:02

   Please leave the scenes in. the joker is possibly one of the hardest roles to play. and if the romours are true about his performance. Let us enjoy the talents of a flame too soon extingushed. As haunting, and creepy as it might be: it so suits the character. The Joker.

1. Eric Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 18:01

   Leave it.

1. Melissa Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 18:36

   LEAVE IT ALONE. Ledger picked that roll for a reason and to cut out something that he put his time and energy into would be a bash to everything he did. I loved all of heaths stuff as so many did. Do not shuve all he did under the rug let's enjoy him through he work.

1. Melissa Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 19:21

   LEAVE IT ALONE. Ledger picked that roll for a reason. If all I have heard is true he brought the Joker to a new level. He put all his time and energy into that roll not only for himself but for us his fans and I don't think it shoul get shuved under a rug. Were strong we can take it and we can remember him in a roll never to be forgotten.

1. Joe Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 20:18

   The real question should be. What would Heath Ledger want? He definitely would want the studio to keep the scene in. Send a message and say "F U" to political correctness. Keep the scene. The fans deserve to see it.

1. Patrick Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 20:18

   LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!!!!!

1. Richard Lockhart Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 23:17

   Leave the movie as it was intended to be.

1. Chuck Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 23:17

   I think that they should cut it. Just think how traumatic it will be for his fans to see him ostensibly dead, then alive again. It could especially confusing and damaging to children. I'm sure that the actor would understand and want to protect children from this kind of hurtful confusion. Batman movies are supposed to be fun and neato, not scary and mean to people's feelings.

1. Sagaladoola Says:
   April 10th, 2008 at 23:17

   Please do not butcher the scene. It is not good to be overly sensitive just because Heath died and pictured in a body bag being matched with Joker pretending as dead and placed into a body bag.
   
   The movie should be left as it is.

1. Steve the Heb Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 00:33

   Not to be disrespectful at all... but isn't that a partial spoiler?
   
   Regardless, definitely leave it in. If pansies ran the world, the ending to the Mist would've been changed.

1. Adnan Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 00:33

   leave the scene in, it will be awesome!

1. Bob Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 00:33

   Oh God! I hope not! everybody claims to be a top notch perfromance so leave it that way!

1. Matt Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 00:33

   Don't change a thing. You don't honor someones life by deleting their work.

1. Rick Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 01:37

   Chuck,
   what the hell is wrong with you? Batman, neato? somewhere, you must have lost your balls, man. if it is damaging for children then it's because of bad parenting. no one but Nolan alone has the right to cut the scene it's his vision.

1. Bill Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 02:17

   Anyone remember THE CROW????? I don't remember them cutting out those scenes??? This is madness.

1. Bear Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 03:21

   1. Any chance someone can start a petition to WB for not touching scenes that otherwise would have been included if not for Heath's death?
   
   2. It's funny how these studio execs are squeamish about a slight reminder of a real-life death within a fictional setting yet have no prob making 9-11 & anti-war movies 10 times as graphic to further their political motives. Chris Nolan's Batman franchise is supposed to be dark and moving, and as long as Nolan isn't *capitalizing* off of Heath's death (which he isn't), WB should let these original DK scenes stand.
   
   3. Chuck, you don't know what you're talking about. These new Batman films are aimed at adults. They're intended to be deep and engaging, not "neato". If you haven't figured that out, you're not paying attention.

1. Dev M. Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 03:21

   Leave it up to his family. I'm sure they'll want to leave it in, but the family should be okay with it. Everyone else's opinion isn't as important.

1. Coquito Von Tito Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 03:21

   Leave the scenes alone!

1. Arlo Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 15:13

   Are we even sure this scene actually exists? From what I've heard the only people that have screened the movie are Chris Nolan, his crew, and WB studio heads. Seems to me someone just started a rumor to tie in to Heath's unfortunate death. Now when we watch the movie we'll be forced to wonder if we're missing out on a scene with the Joker in a body bag.

1. Mike Haseloff Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 15:14

   It's obviously got to stay!
   
   The question deos still beg: what of inevitable sequel(s)?

1. _ram-jaane\' Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 15:16

   Totally agree, they've put in a lot of effort (Nolan & Hedger) to make this Joker spot on, don't dampen that effort due to the people that simply can't accept the art for what it is.

1. Xenu Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 20:31

   Cutting the scene would be ridiculous and a great disservice to Ledger's memory, and those who knew how much he loved art. I'm sure the Nolans' are fighting the studio tooth and nail.
   
   Warner needs to be a bit more pickey who they screen to...

1. Edgar Says:
   April 11th, 2008 at 20:31

   DO NOT CUT ANYTHING FROM THE MOVIE. REMEMBER WHAT THEY DID TO SPIDERMAN PART ONE WHEN THEY CUT OUT THE WHOLE TWIN TOWERS SCENE. LETS REMEMBER HEATH LEDGER IN HIS LAST ROLE WITHOUT ANY FAGGOTS BITCHING ABOUT A SCENE. I DONT THINK HEATH HIMSELF WOULD WANT ANYTHING CUT FROM THE MOVIE..

1. K.c.Nekro Says:
   April 12th, 2008 at 02:58

   yeah, I agree, how can they think about cutting a scene, thats like censoring art, we want to see the entire picture, not just pieces

1. richard s. Says:
   April 12th, 2008 at 02:59

   Leave it in!

1. Andreas Says:
   April 12th, 2008 at 05:26

   Leave it be. Ledger's death was unfortunate but the movie shouldn't suffer because of that. LET IT BE WARNERS!

1. UltimateToronto.com Says:
   April 12th, 2008 at 21:15

   It really shouldn't be cut, but if it is, you can bank on it being on some "special edition" DVD.

1. the darkest knight Says:
   April 14th, 2008 at 13:11

   I agree that tampering with Heath's final and greatest role is bs just because there are a few morons who are, and the phrase is SO appropriate, OVERLY SENSITIVE!!. Go BACK to your little holes in the ground where you'll be safe from the big bad world!!

1. Mr Linc Says:
   April 15th, 2008 at 15:57

   I agree with everyone! AS a huge fan, I've been looking forward to this movie since the first one came out. Over sensitive people should be warned, and exercise their right to not see the movie. I hope they are the minority.
   
   But...(playing devil's advocate here)....
   
   Is there anyone that thinks the roles should be CUT from the movie?

1. Leah.. Says:
   April 15th, 2008 at 15:58

   i say. Put the scenes with heath LEDGER in the bloody movie!
   he did this role, wanting it to go on film. he didnt want it to be deleted, chuked in the trash, stashed away in some stupid cabnet.
   It should to shown to the world, its his final film, this film is apart of heath. Let the world see it, dont keep it to yourselves. So what if you get a couple of angry viewers because you left him in the film, what about the rest of the world who will be upset with yourselves because you took him out of the film. So what side are you going to take.?
   If u take him out of the movie, i seriously think you will get more bad reviews, more ANGRY people, People who are upset with the fact that you took him out of the movie.
   
   LEAVE the movie the way it is, DONE WITH HEATH!. finish the movie. USEING HEATHS FINAL ROLES!......
   
   heath ledger is a BLOODY LEGEND!!

1. Chuck Says:
   April 16th, 2008 at 03:49

   Please regard my earlier entry as a satire. For the life of me, I couldn't think of what kind of spineless twit would want them to cut the scene (besides a movie executive). Lest one of them read it and point to my entry as dissent, let's make it unanimous-- leave it alone.

1. Alyssa Says:
   April 16th, 2008 at 14:21

   I am still in denial that this wonderous Human being with alot of talent is gone forever. I was shocked when I heard of his passing. He was just getting started to what could have been a legendary life , what he left was already legendary and unforgettable. To cut anthing out of this movie would not do him any kind of justice, If you listened to him he gave every ounce of himself in this role and should be able to display that to the world he unfortunatley left behind. Batman is going to be dark at times, these people need to get over it and let people decide for themselves whether they like a scene or not. Its the same with books why the hell would you ban a book? People should be free to make up there own minds about things not have people do it for us like " Big Brother " from 1984.

1. michael Says:
   May 12th, 2008 at 14:49

   Its a movie dont be so friggen lame

1. Rachel Says:
   May 12th, 2008 at 16:15

   They need to leave the scene in the movie! A true Ledger fan would want to see every bit of his performance in this movie. I'm sure it's how he would have wanted it.

1. E Says:
   May 13th, 2008 at 01:07

   The scene should be left in! Ledger would not want his finest roll butchered for the feelings of a few saps who can't handle a truly good movie. He's dead for christ sake! Its best not to think that the actor is actually dead. I would want him remembered!

1. Dolla Dolla Bill Y\\\'all Says:
   May 13th, 2008 at 03:32

   ART VS. $$$
   I wonder who will win.

1. JOE Says:
   May 13th, 2008 at 04:29

   People need to spread this.... everywhere.

1. James Says:
   May 13th, 2008 at 14:22

   I agree wholeheartedly, this should be nipped in the bud. The man is dead he should be remembered for playing this role which (if we can believe what we read) is his outbreak role, not as some ass munching batty boy as he was made out to be in Brokeback Mountain, fucking puffters ruining the film industry.

1. Jakey-D Says:
   May 14th, 2008 at 13:24

   If they cut it then they have made a truly awful decision. In my view actor's are artists and chopping scenes from Dark Knight would be like cutting out the Mona Lisa's eyes. I'm sure even Heath himself would rather that his final work was left intact so that us fans can truly remember how talented he infact was.

1. Amanda Says:
   May 26th, 2008 at 01:08

   I believe that they should leave the scene in. If people cannot distinguish the difference between fiction and reality, than they are f'ing morons and should not be watching the movie in the first place. Second of all, if anyone has seen the first movie, they would clearly understand that it is not really a family flick, therefore, you should not be taking your kids to see this movie in the first place. If you are afraid that your kids will be scarred for life, then maybe you should reevaluate your parenting skills and hire a babysitter instead.

1. Rujaine Says:
   May 28th, 2008 at 23:19

   I completely agree with the article.. except for that last line.
   Wtfreak! Just beacause some people get emotional at seeing this, does NOT mean that they don't deserve to see his work.
   What? - If I all of a sudden break down at seeing my favorite actor put in a bag, ironically mirroring real life events, all of a sudden that means I dont deserve to see it?
   Thats the only thing I have a problme with. The rest of it I agree with.
   Simply because, even though I will be one of those "overly sensitive" people, I strongly believe that the movie should be left untouched and honored, instead.
   it's be a big and sad mistake if it happens otherwise.

1. Jon Says:
   July 19th, 2008 at 23:11

   As I'm sure you all know by now, the scene in question was NOT cut from the final production and is in fact one of the more memorable scenes in the movie because of the Joker's ever present dark sarcasm. I hope you all have and will enjoy this movie. =D

1. Doug Says:
   July 21st, 2008 at 19:07

   I saw the movie last night. The scene was in the movie. Didn't even think about Heath, because the Joker character was incredible.

1. Sam Says:
   August 4th, 2008 at 01:05

   I saw this movie yesterday, then again today. It was absolutely brilliant-- I'm so glad that they didn't butcher the movie by erasing that scene. I find it hard to believe so many people were upset by him being shown as "dead" for a few seconds, it was so quick! And beyond that, not once during the movie, when I saw the Joker (whose role in the movie I loved the most, by the way) did I think, "Oh, that's Heath." Of course I *knew* it was him, but in the Joker character as he portrayed it, there was absolutely no trace of Heath Ledger. The fake death scene didn't even calculate in my head until I saw this article. Heck, it's a movie, people: it's not Heath, it's the Joker. As sad and unfortunate as his death was, people should see that. And even if they hadn't, I would have protested that we should have been permitted to see every single one of Heath's scenes; they were masterpieces, and I cherished them, seeing as The Dark Knight was his final complete role.
   I'm very thankful that this scene stayed, it was one of my favourites.
   "Why so serious?"
   -Sam

1. mind your bussiness Says:
   August 26th, 2008 at 17:11

   first of all well you are 50% write but 50% wrong beacuse i know it is the last movie but still don't you think he wants it to be finished i mean it was number movie of the year don't you think he wants that huh think about it kkk bye yah and if they stopped makin the movie that would be stuipid beacause they got like Alllllllllllllllllllllllllllottttt!!!!!!!!!!! of money
   

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