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Rant: Leave Comic Books Out Of Superhero Movies

By Katey Rich: 2008-07-22 21:39:30
Rant: Leave Comic Books Out Of Superhero Movies For a few decades near the middle of the century, Westerns were the genre filmmakers turned to when they wanted to say pretty much anything. There were pacifist Westerns (Ox-Bow Incident) and patriotic Westerns (Dodge City), anti-McCarthyism Westerns (High Noon) and anti-Vietnam Westerns (The Wild Bunch). Westerns could be excellent or terrible, but they dominated movies at the time, the genre that packed the theaters like no other.

Today, instead, we have superhero movies, and up until this point there have only been a few kinds of them-- the ones where one guy becomes a superhero and beats up the super bad guy, the ones where a guy is born as a superhero and beats up the super bad guy, and the one where a bunch of people get together and beat up the super bad guy. Wash, change costumes, repeat, rake in dollars.

But then, this weekend, The Dark Knight happened, and millions of people who may know nothing more about Batman than the bat signal—surely not all of them saw Batman Begins-- flocked to movie theaters around the world to catch a classy, exciting adventure that just happened to involve a cape. Christopher Nolan is the first director to really tell a comic book story that leaves no trace of its pen and ink origins, but now that Batman has leapt off the page, there may be no going back.

The comic book movie genre is really only getting started-- in the next five years, and probably longer, we're going to see a ton of movies based on comic books, everything from well-known Marvel figures like Captain America to obscurities like Red Sonja. If these movies are going to be relevant, and are going to bring in the Dark Knight audiences who were in it for the quality more than the familiar characters, filmmakers are going to have to accept Nolan's tactic of starting with a comic book hero and branching out into all kinds of directions. And if they want to keep us from getting sick of superheroes, they're eventually going to have to ditch the source material.

Comic books, those old printed relics, have meant a lot to a lot of people over the course of their existence. And their stories have gone in lots of directions over the years, particularly with characters like Batman and Superman who have been with us for so long. But comic books are just the jumping off point-- movies based on them will never say anything new when they're recycling stories written about in the comics 20 years ago. Nolan has proven that, to make a comic book movie that is truly great, you only need a little bit of source material and a lot of imagination. Why not send Batman to Hong Kong to fight crime? Why not ditch Robin? Nolan is treating the Caped Crusader the way Westerns directors treated Wyatt Earp—a vaguely defined figure who can tell a million different stories in the right setting.

If comic book adaptations are going to continue thriving, they have to get away from the origin story pattern and start spreading into new genres. The Dark Knight is a political thriller, and Seth Rogen's upcoming Green Hornet seems likely to be an action comedy. We're a nation fully immersed in superheroes these days, even though many of us don't know the difference between the Marvel and DC Universe. We don't need the details to be willing to buy a ticket. With that kind of trust, the comics themselves are only the beginning of where all these iconic characters can go.

There are lots of different kinds of comic books, of course—the upcoming Watchmen is likely to be as different from Superman as The Wild Bunch was from Stagecoach--and they will contribute to the growing stable of comic book adaptations that are about much more than men in tights. But to get to somewhere great, to get our superhero obsession to have something to say, the makers of these comic book adaptations have to open them up, roll the pre-existing mythology into a ball and use it sparingly, if at all. If these movies are hoping to become meaningful on a large scale, they shouldn't come with required reading attached.


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  1. Chris N. Says:

    I disagree. What superhero movies need to do is to be willing to integrate modern/postmodern themes with the basic comic book ideas. It's perfectly okay to do an origin story, just make sure that's not all you do. Or you could take a page from the Norton "Hulk" movie and make an extremely well-known origin into the opening credits sequence, then proceed with the story you want to tell. The reason superhero movies are doing so well is precisely their focus on their original material. You don't throw out the easy money. The Dark Knight explores the same basic conflict that has been going on in Batman comics for upwards of 40 years...Batman and the Joker. The Joker's insane obsession with Batman and Batman's obsession with defeating Gotham's criminal element have been driving forces behind some of the best that comics have had to offer. The Dark Knight doesn't toss that aside - it drinks from that heady font like a sobering wino. It's the power of that conflict, and the iconic nature of the two opposed characters, that make the Dark Knight so good, not the background of political hooplah in Gotham.

  1. Kris Says:

    I have to only partly agree with you katey. Its true you dont have to be a geek to enjoy a comic book movie, nor do you or should have to know the source material in order to enjoy one. Unfortunately I DO think that the source material is more important than you think. I guess in a way, it does have more to do with being a geek, but the point is, it is comic book readers who have kept these characters alive for as long as they have. Just because Hollywood is finally waking up and adapting a source as rich as comics does not give them the right to start twisting and altering them to thier liking (or to the publics liking).
    The reason Nolan is doing so well with Batman is NOT because hes moving away from the source material, but becuase he respects its, understands the ideas behind it, and cares about it.
    Same goes for both Raimi and Favreau, these are talented guys with good ideas and good imagination that LOVE the movie thier making based on the comic that they loved. They respect it and they know what to do with it.
    Thats what we need more of, I agree there should be no more comics simply translated to the big screen (see "Fantastic Four" and the old "Captain America") but also not just an "Action movie with in it".
    Thats really what got us into this trouble in the first place.

  1. JR Says:

    Comic books...old printed relics? When was the last time you read a comic? Especially some of the current stuff that's out. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but they aren't relics. Try a few, and post your thoughts.

  1. Richard N. Says:

    I agree that you just can't translate a comic to a movie. If you stick to the story of the comic the whole way, you're just repeating a story that already happen. That can get boring. You can do an origins theme but ultimately you have to give you audience something new. It takes a good director with a wild imagination to take a comic book to the next level. Nolan and Favreau are good examples of this. They took a story and made it into something of their own. They don't just make movies. They make epics. That is exactly what an audience needs to truly understand what a comic book is truly about.

  1. meaningless fan Says:

    ("IF THESE MOVIES ARE HOPING TO BE MEANINGFUL"?"they shouldn't come with required reading attached"? )are you kidding me! that attached reading is very important to the characters,("But to get to somewhere great to get our superhero obsession to have something to say, the makers of these comic book adaptations have to open them up, roll the pre-existing mythology into a ball and use it sparingly, if at all.'')so super man and batman and spiderman etc etc arent great yet until they ditch everything? yeah lets rewrite all there histories just for the movies,lets change it all,but keep a little just so you recognize them,lets make batman a midget,and superman a one armed woman,and spiderman a cat from the planet hubbystuby,and i can garanttee no one will see them you wanna know why batman did so well it was the fans you go messing with the SO CALLED COMICS ORIGANS of these not so GREAT CHARACTERS your gonna mess the whole thing up and the genre is gonna die like the spice girls singing career

  1. Greg Says:

    The difference between Nolan's TDK and every other superhero movie is it does not play like a comic book. Nolan said himself he wanted to make a crime saga that just happened to have a guy dressed as a bat. His backgrounds are not two dimensional like every other superhero movie. The city is alive and is reacting to the destruction that is happening around them.

    Nolan/Goyer pulled heavily from the source material, especially Batman #1, Killing Joke and The Long Halloween.

    While I love your analogy to westerns in that they can tell a lot of stories through the genre I disagree that that means ignoring the source material. Its about taking the source material and finding what can be layered with the psyche of the audience today.

  1. RayA Says:

    I agree up to a point, but in "defense" of the comic book source material, Nolan's movie didn't really do anything that hasn't been done in the books before (they've ditched Robin, quite notably, on several occasions... yea, Batman has been to Hong Kong and practically everywhere else in the world... the book has read like a gritty crime drama, a horror story, a sci-fi story, a traditional super-hero vs super-villain story, a light adventure... you name it). I think the point here is that Hollywood has perceived the comic book movie to be fairly formulaic, and the Dark Knight creators realized it could be break down some of those walls and display new directions. You know, just like the comic books have been doing for decades. It just takes Hollywood awhile to catch up.

  1. Nicholas Says:

    I like the Western anology. The upcoming Watchmen movie should help with that formulaic mold breaking dillema. It's author, Alan Moore, like the Shakespeare of graphic novels.

    I do have to say that Raimi was pretty damn faithful to the themes of his source material in Spiderman 1 and 2, worked out pretty well I think.

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