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The Fountain Explained

By Josh Tyler: 2006-11-27 00:00:00

The Fountain Explained It’s neither a critical or box office success, but Darren Aronofsky’s The Fountain is the kind of movie that serious film-o-philes will be talking about for years. The title of this article is actually misleading, because no one except perhaps Aronofsky can explain the film. It’s intentionally obtuse, and part of the genius of it is the way every person who sees it will get something completely different from it.

What’s really happening in The Fountain? My interpretation is that the past is the story written by Tom’s wife, and then finished by Tom in the final moments of his life. The present is of course real, and the future is too. It’s a true science fiction movie, Tom uncovers the secret to immortality to late to save his wife, and uses it to stay alive for centuries while looking for a way to resurrect her. Future Tom and Present Tom are the same person, and Past Tom is Izzy’s interpretation of the real Tom’s attempts to cheat death, and when Tom finishes the book he writes the Conquistador’s demise as sign of his acceptance of Izzy’s belief that death should be embraced as a way to become a part of nature and the universe. Tom the Conquistador turns into a hedge. When future Tom is disintegrated in the stuff of stars, he has chosen to abandon his quest to save his life, and instead travels back in time to do over her few remaining days on Earth.

But that’s just my interpretation. There are others. The only way to get a feel what this movie is, is to examine some of the reactions of others. I’ve scoured the web and posted a few of the most interesting ones below.

First up, Chris Null from FilmCritic.com. Chris is one of those people who hated the movie, and if he’d been at Venice I imagine he might have booed. He believes that “…the three men are not really the same person over the 1,000 years. Aronofsky would like us to believe there's a huge mystery to unravel here, but it's not really the case.” All three Toms are completely separate individuals? No wonder he didn’t like the movie.

Harry Knowles over at Aint-It-Cool-News had the exact opposite reaction. He believes that not only are there not three separate Toms, but that two of them don’t even exist. He says, “To me, there is only one reality – the story that takes place here and now. 500 years ago is in Izzi’s book – a fictional book written by a woman that loves her husband and wants him to be her conquistador – questing for his queen to win eternal life and defeat the eventuality of death. What is that future? Izzi asks Tommy to finish the book. To me, that is this man of science’s take on how he would be reunited with her. He would find a way to live forever, till science could take him to that nebula where Izzi believed her soul would go and be waiting for him, and he would be reunited.” I don’t share Harry’s reaction, but his interpretation is certainly a beautiful one.

Groucho at Groucho’s Reviews has only questions. He says, “Are the three timelines an expression of reincarnation? Maybe. Time travel? Of a sort. Or does the whole film take place in the present, as a man struggles to come to terms with his wife's death? She has authored a fiction of the past; is the film's future story merely Tommy's vision of the final destination of his obsession?” I hadn’t considered the possibility of reincarnation being a central theme. Isn’t Aronofsky a hardcore Christian?

Robert W. Butler at the Kansas City Star seems to agree with Harry. He thinks the future is just another part of Izzi’s book. Robert says, “The key to solving this puzzle may rest in the contemporary story, where the dying Izzi has written a manuscript for The Fountain. Part of Izzi’s book takes place in the Mayan empire, and she has left the final chapter unwritten; Tommy is to complete the book after her death. Presumably the conquistador passages and the man-in-a-bubble stuff represent what’s in the book.” For me, that just doesn’t fit. The man in bubble stuff wouldn’t fit in a conquistador book, when Izzi’s ghost tells Tom to “finish it” in the future, she’s telling Tom to finish the book, and Tom finishes the book by having the Conquistador fail. In my mind, the future must be real.

Eric Melin from Scene-Stealers has an interesting take on the nature of the tree in Hugh Jackman’s future bubble. To me, the ending of the film suggested that the tree is one which grew out of Izzy’s grave. But he believes differently. Eric says, “Jackman is a bald journeyman encased in a clear bubble, moving through deep space with the fabled Tree of Life to keep him alive and visions of Weisz (as both women from the past, or perhaps not) as both company and affliction.”

Ultimately though, understanding what’s happening in The Fountain may not even matter. Edward Douglas from Coming Soon says, “The big mystery lies in how the different segments tie together, whether they're real or part of Izzy's novel, and it uses a number of recurring images to blur that distinction. For instance, images of Izzy are often intertwined with that of the Tree of Life, which is a living entity that reacts to touch and sound. Whether the Tree in the future is the same as the one in the past is another mystery, and the viewer's understanding that there isn't just one answer or interpretation will greatly enhance their ability to enjoy the experience. It's not important to completely understand how everything ties together, because it's more about absorbing as much as possible as it washes over you and soaks into your consciousness.”

Edward’s right. You don’t have to understand The Fountain to take something away from it. Arnofsky wants his viewers to question it, to talk about it. He says, “It’s so often that you’re home the day after you saw a movie and you can’t remember what the hell you saw the night before. But then sometimes you see movies that just stay with you and create a conversation and I think that’s always been a goal to try and do something like that.”

A lot of people simply don’t and won’t get it. The answers aren’t all spelled out there for you, and besides, some people only go to the movies for escapism. But great film can be much more than blockbuster fun. The Fountain is the kind of movie that, love it or hate it, will knock around in your head for years to come. What’s your interpretation?

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  1. Dave Says:

    I fully agree-- what a thought provoking movie. I was lukewarm walking out of the theater, but can't stop thinking about it. Definitely something to be sensed with your emotions rather than thought about with your head. The themes of how to deal with death and love transcendent are more important than the plot.

    But for those of us like me who like to delve into the logic, it seems there are three interpretations of the plot of the movie:

    1) The past is in Izzi's book. The future is either in the book or in Tom's imagination
    2) The past is in Izzi's book. The future is real, with Izzi "reincarnated" as the tree and Tom discovering how to live for 500 years.
    3) The past and/or the future are metaphors, simply occuring in Tom's imagination (the past via the book obviously) as he tries to come to grips with Izzi's death.

  1. Wes Says:

    This was a self indulgent piece of crap that was a waste of 2.5 hours of life. I am all for multiple meanings and interpretations, and I certainly do not have to have everything spelled out for me; but I do think there has to be some basis or foundation in a movie for the audience to project on to for a movie like this to be effective and this movie did not have that. The movie does not seem to have a motive or anything particularly interesting to say about the philosophical issues it grazes. The storyline was so fluid and ambiguous that it remains a mystery to all except it's author; and when that is the case he might as well have kept it to himself.

  1. robert Says:

    Well, after reading Wes's comment, i have to say that my dear Wes needs to learn the proper use of the simi-colon. Maybe he should retake 9th grade grammer before he starts to pose as a movie critic. He didn't even get the length of the movie right. The movie was a masterpiece and anyone who tries to deny it is ignorant to artistic and theological expression. This movie was not made to have a point, but rather ( and you always put a comma or a period before "but" my friend, Wes) to make people question life, death, and love-to cause you to play with those three concepts inside your head untill you develope your own truth. The movie may not be appealing on the mainstream level, but that is not the intention for wich it was made. It is obviously an artistic, theological, and romantic expression-culminated in the medium of film and open for interpretation.

  1. Nick Says:

    I watched the majority of the audience get up and leave chuckling under their breath as they decried the movie to their fellow movie-goers, while I marvelled at the masterpiece of work that this film is and should be recognized as such.

    I've now heard five unique opinions on what was happening in the movie, but not one yet are the one I came to while enjoying the tale. My own personal opinion (so please take it for what it's worth) is that each incarnation of "Tom" and "Izzie" were in fact reincarnations of the same person. Tom's motivation was always to save Izzie (always leading him back to the tree), but never quite succeeding despite his best efforts. Izzie was his motivation and his love, but never his "goal" (which was the search for a cure). This film did a wonderful job of displaying that extremely fine line. All his actions would have us believe that he was endeavoring to save his wife, when his ultimate goal (unbeknown even to him until the end) was to grasp at immortality. For all his suffering in the 16th century, the attaining of his prize healed him, but also removed his life as he knew it, while his quest in the 21st century to find a cure did result in him finding the cure he was searching for, but still losing what made his life worth living at all. His curse was to continue his cycle of reincarnation (as well as repeat his core mistake of ignoring his wife at the expense of his quest, be it to find the tree of life in the 16th century, or to use the treebark to cure cancer in the 21st century). It was only by his acceptance of what was happening and why that he was finally able to "finish it" by means of breaking his cycle of reincarnation. I personally don't think that trip to the nebula in the "snow globe" (as another review put it) happened in the strictest sense, but was more visual metaphor for the journey his immortal soul was undertaking throughout all his various reincarnations, and that the sphere represented the world he was doomed to repeat over and over. It was only when he "escaped" the continuance of his mistakes that he was able to move on and leave the cycle of reincarnation.

    The movie was an extremely artistic blend of various world cultures and religions, tied neatly together through a heartbreaking tale of the love of a husband for his wife and a climax of self-realization. I, for one, took a great deal of enjoyment from the film, and while I may never fully understand the movie, I will enjoy a long time of trying to muddle it out.

    Maybe that was Aronofsky intended?

  1. Nathan Says:

    1) I thought the movie was just a bunch of random scenes thrown together.
    2) It made absolutely no sense.
    3) I disagree with anyone who says it’s an amazing movie.
    4) Anyone who got any sort of “meaning” out of the movie is just reading a bit too much into it.

    But hey, that’s just my opinion.

    Oh, and Robert…
    When writing in the first person, you’re supposed to capitalize the letter i. It’s semi-colon not simi-colon. Grammar is spelled with an ar not an er. Until only has one l. Develop doesn’t have an e at the end of it, and the word “which” does in fact have an h after the w. So you may want to go back to elementary school where they teach youngsters how to spell before you pose as a grammar instructor. ;)

  1. Josh Says:

    Nathan, this is the internet. Not the spellcheck connector. You only water down your opinion when you have to resort to that. It's kind of petty.

  1. Nathan Says:

    Well Josh, I'm guessing from your reply that you didn't read Robert's comment. The only reason I corrected him was because he was talking crap about Wes' poor grammar... when his own spelling was horrid.

  1. Josh Says:

    No I read what he said.

    I intended my comment for everyone... let's just drop the whole spellcheck thing. That goes for anyone and everyone. It's lame and it's a vicious circle.

  1. Juan Manuel Says:

    Nathan I think the movie has a sense. When the movie ended I was disgusted too. I even stayed on the credits until the white screen turned black waiting for an answer. It's just the kind of movie which invites you to see it twice.

    The truth is it has wonderful scenes and the soundtrack really had an effect on my emotions. And I like movies that make me think and are not predictable.

    The director presented the synopsis. From there we may interpret the story.

    I think the Tom of the present actually found the tree and gained immortality, as the substance was already tested on the chimps, and the scientists knew where to find the tree.

    When he visited his wife's grave, he buried a seed, remember? Because his wife told him a story a mayan explorer told to her about his father becoming part of the a tree after death. There is a scene showing Tom speaking to Izzy's ear, and that same scene repeats on the tree, showing it is the woman which is part of the tree traveling with him to xibalbá in the future.

    I believe Izzy's story actually happened, and Tom of the future actually traveled to the 16th century to witness the end of the story. There the mayan guardian believed he was the first father and let the conquistador in.

    He didn't write the end of the story. He witnessed the conquistador dying when trying to gain immortality and live forever along with his queen. He witnessed how it actually ended.

    As he reached xibalbá he realized his obsession to save her wife didn't allow him to enjoy her while she was alive, when he witnessed her dying again as part of the tree. He realized life is to be lived once and that the tree was hidden for a reason. Because he finally didn't had the chance to get his wife back. (she died again before reaching xibalbá) There is when he had this vision of the past where he decided to go watch the snow with her wife rather that trying to find the cure. That is the actual ending he wrote about Izzy's book: he realized what his wife tried to explain to him. He regrets what he did, realizing all this thousands of years quest to reincarnation were nonsense at the end. Just as there were the conquistador's efforts in the past. He couldn't avoid his fate, nor change the story at his will.

    The xibalbá star exploded just in front of present Tom's eyes. So I believe Tom from the future traveled to the past to reach xibalbá when it still existed, but he exploded along with it. (he also died trying to reincarnate just like the conquistador)

    I think the message of the story is to show how far man's obsession to avoid death can go, and tries to makes us accept life as a once opportunity, with no reincarnation, that we should be living and enjoying day by day, as it comes.

    That is what Izzy realized when facing the coming death, and tried to explain to his husband over the years, as a woman and as a tree appearing in visions.

  1. Vaibhav Says:

    Truthfully , I wish i had an understanding of the movie as much as Juan did after i saw the movie couple of hours back . This has intrigued me so far as to seek out the answer for a better understanding .

    This movie is beautiful , sensuous and makes you realise that sometimes as things in our life take precedence we tend to forget the things that were important and now tend to neglect them and all the while in our own understanding , nothing has changed .

    Other than the beautiful and haunting music , the movie is a visual treat . Certainly not for a person craving John Rambo or Scary Movie types . You would have to see it to appreciate it . You will either hate it or love it , but it will make you feel the extreme end of the spectrum for that emotion and nothing in between .

  1. ago Says:

    Great compilation of ideas, Josh! I think you should also read the comic-book. It combines really well with the movie - until the point it becomes too "majestic" but the first ten pages or so are a must to understand the story better.

    If you are curious about my metaphysical musings after the movie, check out this blogpost: http://agoston.livejournal.com/5498.html . It isn't much linked to the movie but I think the MAIN idea is common.

    Cheers!

  1. Tedd Says:

    It's two a.m.. finished watching the dvd 2 hours ago. i cant get it out of my head. this is just the type of page ive been looking for for the past hour.

    i came into this as a big big fan of aronofsky's work and have been waiting some time to see this. i loved this movie before i even saw it. i still feel like i need to love it in order to understand it, which is something i have been struggling with. the insights posted and others i have read have been very helpful. i appreciate those who have posted honestly because i am starting to feel like thats the key to appreciating this film.

    i say appreciate because to me empathy and acceptance are prerequisites to understanding. and isn't misunderstanding the root of most of the criticism the film has recieved?

    with that said i am not going to post my explanation. i don't feel like i have one i would feel comfortable declaring as my opinion yet. i'll need to see it again.

    one thing i will say is that the most important thing i have learned about the film since i started reading about it is that it is open for interpretation. it can be what ever you want it to be. maybe you don't like that. that's fine. maybe you are the type of person who can go to an art museum and look at one painting for an hour and it gives you this funny feeling in your stomach and it inspires you to talk about it and go and create something yourself. you'll probably like this film.

    i am excited to go rediscover this film for my self again.


  1. JoMo Says:

    should have searched for this thread sooner.

    I think the Fountain is an absolute masterpiece of a film. So remarkably ambitious in terms of spirituality (as opposed to the aforementioned theology), structural complexity, visuals, acting - everything. Aronofsky did almost everything right in an effort to create a meaningful film that could communicate (on various levels) to a massive audience. To those who greet it with utter contempt, i offer my apologies for your shortsightedness, ignorance, and general sour demeanor towards that which makes you question what you know to be generally real and meaningful.

    I agree with the idea of the three stories all existing independently of one another, however i think Aronofsky weaves them together in a way that makes their independence less important than the general theme of the film. Yes the conquistador period is the book that Izzie is writing and Tom is finishing, and the other two periods can be purported as "present" and "future," but they are all just different incarnations of Tom's efforts to save his love.

    When i had left the theatre (the first time i saw it), i too thought the conquistador storyline was the fictional one amongst the three, but the single image in the end where future tom is hovering, meditating, in front of the mayan priest led me to believe that it truly has no bearing. It's still the idea of the general protagonist embracing his death in order to fulfill his destiny. That one moment made all three storylines transcend time ... and it was (is) incredible. One of the best films ever made.

    My top 5 (no order):
    1. The Graduate (genuine #1)
    2. Brazil
    3. 2001
    4. Magnolia
    5. The Fountain
    (6)Clockwork Orange

  1. Joe Says:

    I thought "The Fountain" wasn't as much a film as it was a piece of art. I found it to be emotionally stimulating and confusing upon watching it for the first time. After thinking about the movie for a while, here's what I think:

    First, I believe that the story takes place only in the present day and I have a very different idea about the future. At the end of the present day story line, Thomas decides to plant a tree over Izzi's grave and he finishes her manuscript. Both events signify his acceptance of death as being a part of the cycle of life. The future represents Thomas's soul or spirit. By accepting death, his spirit is set free from its solitary and painful existence.

  1. mollie Says:

    I thought the movie was very well done. It was absolutely beautiful! It's amazing how you can tie in such a beautiful love story with something as amazing as this movie was. However, I also have many interpretations of this movie.

    1. Tommy and future Tom are the same people.
    2. They are not the same, its all in his mind

    I've thought in dept about both of these explainations and the only one that keeps comming back into my thoughts is that he regrets doing a couple things on earth. Therfore I think maybe the "buble" was just symbolizing his life, and that he lived a very long life and he tried untill his last days to find the cure. I think he finishes the book just before he dies and somehow he understands that he must also die to be with his love again. I think that Izzi maybe was haunting his thoughts or what not because I think it's trying to say that he went crazy after she died. He looked for that cure for years and years and then she showed him that if he HAD NOT gone to surgery that day and he WOULD HAVE gone walking with her that he WOULD NOT have lost his ring and she WOULD HAVE given him that seed to plant. Of course she still would have died but he would have been able to see that death truly is the beginning. In a lot of ways it seems like this is possibly a Christian movie?

  1. Craig Says:

    The podcast 'Watching Theology' has episode devoted to this film:
    http://watchingtheology.com/index.php?post_id=217235

  1. Ray Says:

    This is what I think. A man is working 24/7 to save his terminally ill wife; at the same time, the wife is trying to save his soul. So she writes a story entitled The Fountain. It's a story about a conquistidor, the Queen of Spain, and the Inquisition, but its really about him and his obsession to conquer death (much like Captain Ahab). To ensure that he gets the message, she has him write the last chapter. The scenes where we see him with the Tree of Life floating in space is really him struggling to writing the last chapter. When he realizes what he should have done when his wife was alive, he is able to say good bye to her. There is no future Tom or past Tom; there is just obsessive Tom and caring Tom.

  1. FrauSTL Says:

    Interesting conversation going on. I agree this is one of the best films I've ever seen. Since the DVD came out, I've been able to watch it a few more times and much more closely -

    Here's some thoughts -
    The past (the conquistador story) represents Izzy's thoughts on her husband. Spain, not just Tomas = Tom. She wrote the book, because she needed some way to pass knowledge (that everyone dies) onto him, since he wasn't talking with her much.

    The present isn't "the present" in the movie. It's the past; currently he's flying out in space remembering all these events. Every time the 2006 time period is interrupted we see Space Tom screaming. And the 2006 period is usually introduced by Space Tom acknowledging a specific memory or Izzy. Everything that we see in the 2006 period really happened. We see it only from Tom's point of view, since we've only got his memories to guide us.

    The future is the present, and Tom still hasn't finished the book. It's all in his head now. He still has the ink fountain pen, which proves it's the same Tom. The book pages, assumably, wouldn't last 500 years. Not to mention, the book itself isn't important, just its ideas, which Tom has read over and over to the point he's memorized it and can visualize it completely. And yes, the tree in the bubble is the Tree of Life from South America, not the tree from Izzy's grave (more on that later).

    It's the ultimate love story. He has pined over her memories for the past 500 years, turning a "once love" into the ultimate horror of living with the memories, but not with the person.

    Space Tom can finish the book only when he realizes it's okay to die. He finishes the book in his head, which the Aronofsky shows blatantly by zooming into Space Tom's head and then showing that scene acted out. Yes, he dies in the explosion and he then returns to Eden with his love.

    To prove he's in Eden (i.e., heaven, the afterlife, whatever you believe), he's a few thoughts: The beginning of the movie mentions the Garden of Eden and the Tree of Life ... yet most of the interviews by Darren and Rachel about the film, the Tree of Knowledge is also mentioned -- keep that in mind as you read this. Izzy, the writer of the book, has Isabella tell Tomas that when he has the ring he will live with her in Eden for eternity. The same ring exists in the 2006 time. When he chooses his life's work over his wife, he loses the ring and loses his Eden. (By staying with her until her final moments, he would've stayed in his Eden and enjoyed their love until her death knowing they'll see each other again someday). He gets back the ring after letting the quest for immortality die; with the ring, he can enter Eden.

    The only thing that changes in Tom is the knowledge that he will die. That's it. What's the other thing in Eden ... the Tree of Knowledge. This tree is what made Adam and Eve mortals. Izzy came to terms with her death long before she died. She passes that knowledge to the presumably 2006 Tom in the final scenes of the film. She pulls a 'seed' from a tree with a white background. The hand then passes the seed to Tom. This is her reaching out from heaven and giving him the knowledge that he does die. Before he plants the seed on her grave, you can see he has the ring on his finger (look closely). This Tom is not the same as the 2006 Tom who lost his ring and tattooed his finger. So who is he...

    In the graphic novel/original script, he's not him. The grave 2006 Tom is a naked version of Izzy. Eve and Adam, whilst still in Eden, where portrayed as naked, having no shame. The change, I believe, was to A) simply to not show someone naked; B) to further "bury" the meaning of the film; and C) to show that Tom (and Izzy) is in Eden after he died.

    So... I propose that the grave 2006 Tom is the "ghost of Space Tom". The final scene is him looking up and seeing the nebula explode. When stars explode from that far away, the light from the explosion takes awhile to arrive at Earth. In this case, the time for "ghost Tom" to arrive back at earth and bury the seed, which finishes the story and metaphor that Izzy's (and Tom's) lives are part of the universe. At the very end of the film, the talking about "finishing it" is him entering Eden and living forever with his Eve.

    What some view as a tragic love story isn't so with this take. Instead, he does find his Eve ... but only after much soul searching, which is tragic in its own right.

    Those are my current thoughts on the film ... I've gone back and forth on a few things. There's probably a lot of other religious/spiritual symbolism (Eastern religions, for example) that I'm missing, but that's due to ignorance, as I'm not well versed in those subjects.

    This film is a work of art. As a writer, I'd love to see something I've made dissected to the point this film has been. It shows it's touched a nerve with its audience. Be it good or bad, that nerve makes you consciously step through the film with an analytic and thoughtful point of view. I haven't had a film do that to me in years. (Since Pi, to be exact.)

    All's well that ends well -
    Enjoy the show.

  1. chaz Says:

    1. Is there any evidence from the script/director that there are 3 re-incarnations and 3 timespans??

    2. Who was he in love with in the future Nirvana period?? The Tree??? he brushed away the 2 ladies for the Tree LOL (thats a give away for the plot really)

    for me, all the stories are his imagination for the ending of the book that his wife wants him to finish, (and thereby to understand what she came to understand and finally found peace with)

    In the end he realises the correct ending from the past story his wife gave him, the present story that he s living, and the future story that he imagines.

    Its a cautionary tale to live for the present; he brushes his dying wife away whilst too busy trying to find a way to save her, when the head researcher advises him to spend more time with her. The conquistador wastes all his time away from his queen only to find death. The future Tom is in love with the Tree?? as he too brushes his 2 loves away.

    I don't believe that his wife wants him to find a cure for death and for him to join her int he stars; she wanted him to spend more time with her for the few moments she had left.

    Does he actually go out into the snow to spend more time with her rather than chase answers to the wrong questions, like the Conquistador, and the future Tom.

    Thats the answer for the viewer!!

  1. Meadock Says:

    Ok, so far your explanation is by far the closest in my mind. I'd like to add to your interpretation about the future being real. Not only is it real, it represents what is goin on inside of Tommy. The past in Izzi's book is what is going on inside of her. Tommy's future and feelings are chaotic. He looks at his quest to save Izzi as his duty. His insides are chaos. Izzi looks at it all as a sort of heroic fantasy. Tommy is her conquistador and she is his queen. The future and past being each of the character's point of view helps to fit the randomness of the different scenes of the past and future together in the present. When one even occurs in the present and it switches to the past or future--it is representing what is going on inside the respective character. So while the future may be real, understand that it may also be how Tommy is seeing and feeling in a metaphorical sense.

  1. Donal Says:

    Early in the movie Izzy says her book starts in Spain and ends at the Nebula. This either implanted the idea in present Tommys head that she could be reborn at the nebula or the space timeline is ficticious,the conclusion she had set for the book but that he was writing. I go with the former as in the space timeline he is continually told to finish it(ie the book).

    Given that the book is Izzys attempt to pass onto her husband the idea that death is a natural part of life and the present is real there are one or two outstanding issues i dont get.
    In the 1500 timelime his confrontation with the Mayan with the fiery sword, after initially stabbing Tomas he then offers him his life???
    The fact that after Tom ends his life by jumping into the dying star the Tree is restored to life?
    There might be a causality idea here as in the Mayan myth that Tommy is infact the first father but the details of it arent apparent to me.

    The affection future Tom shows the tree leaves no doubt in my mind he belives its her i.e. grown from her grave.I think Tom is seeing the whole affair in tunnel vision and until the end missing the big picture. He misinterprets the words of Moses the tour guide who was describing his fathers belief that his energy returned to nature in the tree that grew from his grave,the birds that ate from the tree etc etc. Tom takes this too literally that the tree is in essence his dead wife.

    During the movie i figured that the Tom's trip through space to the star was his wait to be reborn and his compemplation of his earlier life ie he's dead at this stage. He had to let go of that life before he could move on and be reborn.
    I dont know if there's enough evidence in the movie to support this.

    Anywho for a film with a tonne of flaws i really liked it, cant remember the last time i wanted to know other peoples opinion on a movie so much. Can't believe Disney made this hopefully a sign of things to come.

  1. marc fratto Says:

    if the past is a figment of her imagination, why would the future not be a figment of his?

    my personal take on it was that the only real thing in the movie was the story of the doctor and his wife. The conquistador and the space traveller where both figments of their imagination (hers being the conquistador story, as we see her writing it; and his being the space traveler, which we see him fantasizing about and weaving his current life into). they made up these stories to deal with the real pain of her unavoidable death. there really was no magical tree or any of that nonsense. The movie is essentially a very realistic film about a man trying to save his wifes life through medical science....

    i thought this was all pretty obvious, but i dont know. anyway, thats my take.

  1. Victor Says:

    I think there is only one Tom. That the conquistador is, like you mentioned, a historical fiction that is a metaphor for her husband's attempt on trying to capture "immortality" in order to save her life. The "future" Tom is what is going on in his head and is his self-reflection. The tree represents how close he was to obtain something that could potentially have cured his wife while he is haunted by the book and his memory of his wife. Constantly taunted by his mind (man vs. self) to finish the book, while he hasn't been able to for the longest time. He eventually finishes the book, turning the conquistador into shrubs "as sign of his acceptance of Izzy’s belief that death should be embraced as a way to become a part of nature and the universe." He reasons for what seems like a long time to him, but he accepts that his wife is dead and goes on to plant the seed on her grave. So in a way, he found a way for her to "live on forever". Just on the earth and in the sky.

  1. frank Says:

    I think that if you read the graphi novel as the story that DA wanted to film, you will get a better understanding of the movie As it is, the movie and trh graphic novel diverge. In the graphic novel, it may actually be 500 years in the future. In the movie, it may be just a dream or a representation of Tom
    s psyche.

  1. marc fratto Says:

    thanks frank.. i didnt even know there was a graphic novel. thanks for the info. i'm definately going to check that out...
    yeah, in the movie, everything but the modern day story comes off as fantasy, especially because only in the modern day story, is there no real mythical elements. the tree of life is just another south american tree sample in a lab. no one comes back from the dead and there are no supernatural elements. the most miraculous thing in it is the shrinking of the apes tumor which is still something that happens in life...
    but in the other two stories, there are spaceships, immortality trees, people turning into plants, wounds healing by themselves, etc etc.... the more i think about it, the more i feel that my first instinct was right. only the 21st century story was real; the conquistador was a product of izzy's imagination and the space traveler was a product of toms.

  1. rom Says:

    I thought it was an excellent, thought provoking movie.

    I think the movie attempts to explain what happens in the afterlife. Love ties the two main characters together through two lifetimes. (The bubble Tom didn't even recognize the modern Izzy at first.)

    Tom refuses to let go of the present life and ends up in the bubble traveling through space, suffering greatly. He may have died but be in a sort of purgatory. Basically, by refusing to accept the natural flow of life and death, he ends up taking a very hard, unecessary journey on his own. He learns finally, that death is partly to create new life physically, (the flowers), but that the spirit is then able to soar free into the universe and meet up with loved ones. The road to awe...

  1. big nick Says:

    well, as a rookie cinematographer. i immediately stopped thinking about the plot itself because the visuals, production design, and use of specific colors in lighting for each shot had me completely hooked.
    generally, when i notice a flying, "snow bubble" with a guy inside of it, floating through space, i'm assuming that i should just forget about tying everything together with the plot and just run with it, letting whatever feelings and thoughts that come to mind and heart assume the role of what i consider the movie to be about. it's like being able to WATCH a poem. for anyone who is just criticizing the movie because it made no sense, i hope that idea plants some sort of seed as to why so many people really liked it. that is my way of looking at it and i pray that it might help. either try to think about it that way or, you're just an idiot.

  1. WATYF Says:

    You know... there's really no reason to insult the people who didn't like this film. Everyone has different tastes. There is no "better" or "worse" taste (as much as people don't want to accept that). Only different tastes. So if someone didn't like the ambiguity of the film, it's not because they're an idiot, it's because they're different from you. And btw, you only make yourself sound like a pompous ass by saying you "feel sorry for them".

    As for the movie... I thought it was OK. I did like the visuals. If I wanted to watch a movie purely for visuals, this would be a good one to pick. But I don't usually watch movies just for the visuals. I also like to be able to connect with the characters. And the way that I personally connect with movies is by understanding the relationships and drawing on them. The problem I had with this movie was that the storyline was so vague that I couldn't connect with any of the timelines (past, present, or future). I spent the whole time just trying to figure out what was going on, and what was real, and who was who. For me, that lessened the impact of the story.

    Now, having read this article and its author's interpretation of the film, it does make sense. I think it (mostly) ties together if you go by the premise that the past was Izzi's book (a message to try to get her husband to stop fighting the inevitable), the present was Tom (fighting to save her and finally discovering the secret to eternal life just minutes too late), and the future was him after having preserved her in the tree for hundreds of years so he could take her to the dying star. The only part that doesn't really make much sense is the time travel bit (i.e. how would he time travel while sitting in a bubble in the middle of space). Also, why would he end up in the conquistador story? If that was just Izzi's book (and not reality) then why would he write himself into it as some dude floating in front of the Mayan priest? That wouldn't make any sense to a reader (of course, at that point, who is gonna read it any way).

    I thought there was some cool stuff in this film, but for me it was overshadowed by the fact that I had to Google the title afterwards just to get the slightest measure of closure on what the heck I had just watched. Some people like that... some people like a movie that requires them to watch it repeatedly, and take notes, and talk with other people about all the details to see if they can finally work out what the film is about (a la Donnie Darko), but that's just not my bag. I would have enjoyed this a lot more if just a couple of steps had been taken to explain what each timeline was. Much like the directors cut of Darko where he included snippets from the book about time travel (which basically explains the premise of the movie without patronizing the audience), the same kind of thing here would have done a lot to make this movie communicate to more people.

    WATYF

  1. Marc Mason Says:

    I bieleve that >

    1) Past Tom i bieleve is the character in Izzy's book
    2) Present Tom is what is happening presently.
    3) Future Tom i bieleve is the future but not in a sense thats he's immortal but rather that he's dead. Now i have no idea why no one has come up with this already ive would of expected somebody to make the same call. But early in the movie Izzy talks about how when people die there "tortued souls" travel to Nebula to be born again. I bieleve that future tom is technically the future except he's dead and he's tormented by his present, not bieng able to be with Izzy has caused him to be haunted by her because everytime he see's her he blames himself for not bieng able to spend time with her. Except he keeps obsessing over the "cure" which becomes his burden. And then in the end he's finally realizes that he needs to let go and is ready to be reborn.

    I really am confused as to how nobody else has thought of this.

    INFACT! e-mail please! if you thought the same way or disagree! marc_mason@hotmail.com

  1. Monthigos Says:

    I enjoyed the movie, but personally thought it was a tad too nebulous (no pun intended). It felt a little incomplete to me as if there were key details left out. The result, IMO, is that the movie is a little TOO open for interpretation. As a result, I think this lack of detail detracts from any type of philosophical pondering the average viewer could possible be having, and instead leaves them wondering what the hell they just watched. In my book, I wouldn't consider that a success, but hey, I don't make movies.

  1. I LUV SOPHIA BUSH Says:

    It sucked that it didn't make more money.

    I would have NEVER EVER guessed that the bubble was a space ship...ever

    i LOVED the movie but there is a difference between making a movie where you don't think your audience is dumb (good) and a movie where you have to go online to find its meaning...

  1. Sara Says:

    To those who say that Tommy writing the ending at Xibalba doesn't make sense.. remember the part in the movie where he asked her why she was star-gazing.. and she told him it was research..

    Then he said "Doesn't it take place in Spain?" Her reply: "It starts in Spain. It ends there..." as she pointed at Xibalba.

  1. Elaine Says:

    Just finished watching it, and have been pretty stumped. I don't normally like coming up with explanations for the deeper meaning in movies - I like the open-endedness, all the possibities...but I think I needed a bit of a jump start! Thanks for these explanations...I think I'm going to go watch it again and make some more sense from it.

  1. Just Viewed It Says:

    I've read the various interpretations of the film posited here and believe most have great merit. I think the film was intentionally left ambiguous so that you can draw your own conclusions. As a matter of fact, something just now occurred to me as I wrote that previous sentence. "Finish it" may not in fact be limited to just Tom's and Izzie's characters within the context of the film. "Finish it" may actually be the director challenging the viewer to finish the story for themselves in the same way Izzie was challenging Tom to finish the story she had begun in the film. Don't forget that an actor reciting lines in a film is actually a director and/or writer speaking to his audience.

    Certainly, the director established a storyline and theme to start you on a particular path. But where that path takes you is partly left up to the viewer. Thus, whatever interpretation you wish to make or whatever you wish to take with you from the film is completely legitimate; there is no "right" or "wrong" interpretation. If your interpretation has value and meaning to you, then the director (and I'm going out on a limb in assuming this was his intent) accomplished what he set out to do.

    It's akin to asking an artist who has created an abstract painting, "What IS it?!?!?", and the artist challenging you with the response, "What do YOU see?". It's not about the artist dictating TO YOU what he demands you see HIS way, it's about the artist creating an open-ended experience into which, through the very act of viewing it, you have interacted with the art, brought your own values and life experiences to it, and ultimately take from it an interpretation that is uniquely your own and has meaning for you. The art is dynamic and constantly re-defined by each person who views it.

    This does not make the person who sees no value in the film a moron or heartless or unimaginative. Not every work of art appeals to all people; if it did, we would only ever need one movie, one painting, one sculpture throughout all of history because then everyone would see it the same way and have the same reaction to it. Quite the contrary; the fact that some people see no value in the film only reinforces the diversity of experience and backgrounds that exist in the world. That, I believe, is something of value to be celebrated and reinforced rather than criticized.

    We live in a technologically based culture in which survival oftentimes depends on yes-or-no, black-or-white, right-or-wrong answers. Don't believe me? Would you want to fly in an airplane in which the stress failure rating of the wings was "left open to interpretation"? No, you wouldn't. You want to fly in an airplane in which you know precisely down to the tenths of a percent the exact engineering stress tolerance loads of that airfoil; or car, or elevator, or bridge, or cross-walk signal, or 2nd story of a building, or microwave oven, or natural gas powered water heater, or laptop computer battery, etc., etc. (apply it to just about any avergae American’s everyday experience). That doesn't mean that you look it up on a table before you board the plane. But, because that whole mentality is built into the very fabric of the culture in which you live, you take it on faith that the engineers who designed that aircraft wing knew what they were doing and that the government-mandated quality assurance process put in place is a trustworthy one. Sensationalistic journalism covering the rare crash aside, for the hundreds upon hundreds of uneventful flights taken every day that faith is well placed. In such a culture, leaving things open-ended without definitive answers naturally leads many to feeling unease or disappointment. So when a film like this comes along in a culture the likes of which I’ve described, it's natural that it will not be well received by the majority of viewers. But the fact that it could be made at all and that it got people thinking and commenting, even if they hated it, is, I think, a good sign.

    And now for the “piss-some-of-the-audience-off” comment; I’m just glad Brad Pitt backed out and was replaced by Hugh Jackman.

  1. 60th Street Says:

    Re: Marc Mason's comment
    (I will probably come back and post what I think as soon as I have watched the movie again so I can confirm my take on it)

    In response to your statement: "Future Tom i bieleve is the future but not in a sense thats he's immortal but rather that he's dead."

    The question I ask would be that if Future Tom is dead, why all the allusions to the physical world and the passage of time? Would time and sustinence not be irrelevant to a dead person? Yet, Future Tom seems to:

    1.) Need to meditate to pass time and not go insane

    2.) Need to tattoo himself to mark time

    3.) Need to eat from the tree to survive the journey

    4.) Be haunted continuously by memory

    5.) Have charged himself as caretaker of the tree

    6.) Have at some point, arrived at the conclusion that Buddhism has more spiritual merit than other religions

    All of these acts have implications for the story, I'm sure, and I wouldn't conclude that it is what souls do when they die, or, what this particular soul chose to imagine for itself on its way to the nebula to be reborn.

    I'd be interested to hear what you think.

  1. twisty Says:

    This is my own personal interpretation of the movie.

    The past, present, and future all have their turning points:
    Past: Future Tom appears and Past Tom makes it to the tree
    Present: Tom runs after his wife instead of pursuing the cure
    Future: Tom lets go after the vision of his wife tells him to "finish it." (he dies)

    The present and future are real. Past is not. The fact that future Tom actually appears in the past during the turning point to change the course of events, but not in the present confirms this. The past is just the story playing in future Tom's head.

    What future Tom does when he moves outside the bubble is to finally finish the story and accept that the conquistador fails his quest, and when this happens there is also something transcendental that happens to present Tom such that the course of his life is changed in the remaining days of his wife's illness (as proven by the reappearance of the ring when he visits her grave) The conquistador failing his quest is a play on future Tom also having failed his quest in trying to revive his wife (now the tree, possibly).

    I think the story borrows some ideas from Buddhism, which can be viewed as a way of life and not necessarily a religion. Buddhism deals heavily with suffering and the end of suffering, which is what happens at the end of the movie.

    Anyway, there are alot of things I am probably glossing over and missing. For example, when future Tom first tries to put on his ring, there is a flashback to past Tom and there is a weird screeching noise and they both drop the ring.

    A very thought provoking and memorable movie. It was fun reading all your comments.

  1. Matt Says:

    Ive read through most of the comments for the last 15 minutes and I thought many more people would have the same interpretation of the movie that i came out with. Dissapointingly only the 1st comment addresses what i saw in the movie in his 3rd point describing the past and future as purely metaphoric. Watch the movie again and view all 3 plots not as different time periods with different Tom's but as 3 seperate streams of conciousness interacting with each other. The past and future sub plots are a tangible way for aronofsky to portray present Tom's thought process to the audience. Best proof of this, at least what convinced me, is evident when future Tom argues with Izzi on the first day of snow and aronofsky constantly transitions back and forth between present and future and often mixes them. Future Tom therefore is present Tom's articulation of his struggle in the present which is centered around trying to buy time. However, when present Tom reads Izzi's book the articulation is skewed into a different time frame yet with the same overarching theme- the Inquisitions presence in the pasts plot is not pointless, it provides the sense of urgency that is the undertone of all 3 stories. There are too many unexplainable sequences when trying to construct a linear story with these three plots. When viewing the film through the framework im talking about, 1 Tom using past and future Tom to articulate his state of mind, the final moments of the film, with Tom passing the Mayan guard and proceeding to the Tree of Life, are absolutely mind blowing. Never before in a film have I felt such a vivid inner-conflict. In the back of your mind while watching this final scene imagine present Tom sitting in his office (its all in his head) he is battling his quest for immortality versus acceptance of death via the juxtaposition of past and future Tom into one final collision. His decision to accept death is symbolized through the demise of the conquistador Tom and the nirvana-esque state of future Tom.

    What does everyone think about this interpretation?

  1. GW Says:

    Matt,

    I'm convinced you are wrong. If you read the graphic novel, watch the movie trailer, and pick up on certain clues in the movie you will see that the 3 time lines are in fact real and not a metaphor. When Tom transitions back to the first day of snow it and he makes a different choice, this is the part of the movie where he is finishing the book. He finishes it not with what really happened, but what should have happened. He finally realizes that he should have spent time with Izzy rather than searching for a way to keep her immortal.

    I'm convinced the actual story is as follows. Tomas and Isabella lived in the 1400's during the Inquisition. Tomas found the tree of life and brought the sap back so that they both lived until the present until Izzy developed brain cancer. Tomas fails to find a cure and Izzy dies. Tomas finds that the tree of life is dying and requires a great energy source to be reborn. In an effort to keep it alive he seeds the tree, at least one of which he seeds over Izzy's grave. (see graphic novel and end of the movie for the clue)

    In the future Tomas, quite possibly being the "last man" alive on earth ,(title of the first track of the soundtrack) takes the tree of life which was seeded over Izzy's grave on a spaceship to Xibable to have it reborn. It is no coincidence that scenes morph from the shape of the tree to the shape of Izzy's body, likewise Tomas speaks exactly to the tree as he did to Izzy in the same loving manner. Once you realize this part of the story you will understand that Tomas is not having hallucinations due to grief, but rather he is actually communicating with Izzy whose body was absorbed by the tree over her grave. There is a reason that Izzy dies and is juxtaposed with the tree dying in the future. They are the same in a way because of the tree absorbing Izzy and hence Tomas lost Izzy twice no matter how hard he tried to keep her alive. After realizing that he would die too without the tree to sustain him, he finishes the book by having himself die in the past upon drinking the sap. For the present day he chooses Izzy over his work and in the future he becomes the next first father for the planet that the reborn tree of life will end up on.

    Clues that the past was not just Izzy's story:

    1) He falls asleep and the story finishes in his head. Only possible if he lived the story. Izzy's book just made him remembered his past. See the part of the movie where he has fallen asleep and the book falls out of his hand.

    2) "I took science" "When?" "In junior high"
    Clearly this is their inside joke because Izzy was never educated in modern day schools.

    3) Tom uses the tree for his research. Again clearly he is using the tree of life which reverses aging. Tom is not interested in aging because he knows the tree has that property after having lived 600+ years using its sap. He theorizes the tree has special life powers which might be able to cure cancer. Again this could only be possible if the tree of life existed which makes Izzy's story a biography of sorts.

    4) See the trailer. "A story that spans 1000 years" The graphic novel also makes this clearer. At the beginning he asks Izzy to make him remember what his life goal is because he has forgotten...something that is not quite as clear in the movie.

  1. Avita Says:

    Not many movies come out that provoke thought the way this movie does - kudos to the director. I'm wondering - does anyone have any interesting analysis of the part where Tom drinks the sap from the tree then grows into plants? I mean, other than the obvious, of course. I'd be interested to hear them. Ciao!

  1. John Says:

    GW I have some question regrading your clues:

    1. I took that falling asleep as him reading the text, then him sleeping and thinking of it and dreaming about it. This has happened in other movies, where it is implied the character read up to that point and dreamt about it. This scene also allows him to sleep, which he almost never does in the movie.

    2. I took the "junior high" joke to be her admitting the science she did take was a long time ago and wasn't very extensive. It's a way of saying "You got me! I didn't really take the science it would take to know this."

    3. If Tom thinks the tree might cure cancer and runs tests on it, why does he think she developed cancer in the first place since she's also been using it to live so long? And why does the idea of using the tree come to him this late? Notice he performs an operation before sitting on the ground and thinking of using the tree. If he was as well acquainted with the tree as you say, why did he start running a test to see if it cures cancer (something which would be doubtful since she developed it in the first place) so late in his research?

  1. pixie Says:

    My interpretation of this movie is that it had some pretty intense buddist messages-to live now and to enjoy the present-(simple things like walks in the snow). Life continues in the tree, as Izzy's story of the tree goes....our bodies will nuture the tree and the birds that feed on the tree, allowing us to soar. That is how we live on.

    Tom with his shaved head in the bubble w/the tree, assuming the lotus position, gives me this vibe.

    I loved the movie. My dad died a year ago. It's amazing how you see everything differently when you have lost someone you cared so much about.

  1. GW Says:

    "3. If Tom thinks the tree might cure cancer and runs tests on it, why does he think she developed cancer in the first place since she's also been using it to live so long? And why does the idea of using the tree come to him this late? Notice he performs an operation before sitting on the ground and thinking of using the tree. If he was as well acquainted with the tree as you say, why did he start running a test to see if it cures cancer (something which would be doubtful since she developed it in the first place) so late in his research?"

    As you can see the tree by itself cannot cure cancer or prevent which is why his first mixture with the tree failed. He had to get the mixture right. That alone shows you the tree by itself is not a cure for cancer, just a way to stop aging and heal most wounds.

    It makes sense to me that he didn't use the tree until late because she had developed cancer while using the sap to sustain herself for this long. If she developed cancer while using the tree sap why would he think the tree could cure her cancer? Most likely he realized later that something more was needed than the tree alone...but he discovered this too late. I found it interesting that he realized this once he looked up and saw the light which resembled Xibalba.

  1. Wes (different Wes) Says:

    I havent taken the time to read all the comments, so I may be only repeating someone elses interpretation, but I think the movie is set in the future, not the past or present.

    I think that both the present and the past are all snippets of his memory - that the whole movie feels like a flashback, and he keeps waking up at different moments. He keeps seeing the nebulae in the present, when he looks up at the sky, even in his office. The only place where the most sense is made seems to be in the future, albeit he is having strange visions of his past wife and his imaginary queen wife.

    in the future, he has discovered the eternal life, and we dont care how that has affected the world, or how the heck he got that tree in that bubble (by now we should assume if there was a logical "tree of life" and it was discovered, then the human race would have all discovered eternal life, not just him). we just know that he has exhausted all his options on earth, and has decided to go to the Nebulae to test his rebirth theory.

    I havent, like I said, spent enough time really analyzing this move, but I think it is a work of art and has some teriffic acting. Highly Reccommend!!

  1. Music Says:

    My original opinion on watching the movie was that

    A. I didn't care if the story made sense or what "really happened" and all I really cared about was the emotion and feelings the movie brought up and the beautiful images displayed.

    B. If I was going to make an interpretation of it I though the present was the story of a scientist that found the tree of life and was trying to use it to cure his wife with brain cancer. The past was in Izzi's book which she wrote as a metaphor for her husband(she being queen isabella(izzy), him being the conquistador trying to use the tree of life to live forever with her) And that the future was just a unique and modern film and artistic device, simply serving as a metaphor for the story of what was happening in the present.

    Having read some of the comments in this talkback, I've come to another possible conclusion that I like more maybe?

    The character's remain the same and real throughout the time periods, and the whole thing "really happens" with the same people.

    The conquistador is sent by Isabella(izzy) to find the tree of life, he does find it and brings it back and they live together for centuries, Isabella develops brain cancer and Thomas tries to use the tree of life to save her, working on a mixture which will stop brain tumors. He tries his first mixture and it heals the monkey but doesn't stop the tumor, soon later, a mixture is developed which does stop the brain tumor. But it's too late, Isabella has died. Thomas takes a seed from the tree of life and plants it over Isabella's grave. Isabella grows into the tree of life and after hundreds of years, Thom has a way to go with her towards Xibalba. The tree dies before reaching Xlbalba, and Thomas realises that Izzi was right all along, and that he must accept death. He travels back in time and IS the first father(time travel stuff is cyclical) and plants the tree of lifecreating life on earth. He also returns to just before Izzy died to live stay by her side(another dimension, not reallycyclical time travel)

    so those are my two interpretations at the moment.

  1. adrian Says:

    I just saw "The Fountain." Man that's a good movie... It's one of those where you kinda walk away wondering if you liked it, but the more you think about it, the more you come up with reasons you love it. I kept pausing the movie to tell my wife what I thought was going on and she did the same... after it was over I went online to look for some sort of explanation, but didn't really find anything that matched my thoughts... and everyone has a different take, so here's mine. Let me know what you think.



    This film mixes the concepts of alternate realities, timelines, reincarnation and the quest of enlightenment with a basic message of, "enjoy the time you have while you have it." The past story is told as a book that the wife is writing, just for us, as the audience to have a way of seeing it. But it did happen, in another time or another reality and she has this story in her head because her and Tom are the same as the “conquistador” and the Queen. As the queen, she mentions the tree of life to be the second tree, with the first being the tree of knowledge which Adam picked the apple from. She also says that she will be his “Eve.” “The Creator” hid the second tree because man had partaken of the forbidden fruit, but with “Tom’s” obsession with finding eternal life so that he may be with his Queen for all eternity, he was able to find it and commit the same sins as Adam. The tree did give him eternal life, but as the punishment for taking the “fruit” or in this case, the sap from the tree, he became part of the soil which rests by the tree of life, so that his soul endures the hell of eternity by his true love, the Queen, who’s soul becomes linked to the tree when he drops her ring into it. The projection we see in the future, is just that, a projection of his soul as the last piece of Earth flies into the Nebula, the only two souls left in the universe. So eternal life isn’t that great after all? The eternal life granted to him by the tree of life became his prison, where his soul was doomed for all eternity to watch over and over as the soul of his Queen fades every time an incarnation of Izzy dies... or until one of his reincarnations or realities finally embraces death and seeks to value his time alive and the time he has with the woman he loves, rather than missing life and missing out on his true love because of his obsession with living forever. And every time he fails in one reality, he has to watch her die again… the pain causes him to mark his body on Earth, as is the case with the tattoo on his finger, but in his eternal suffering, he gets a ring tattooed onto his soul ever time as a symbol of his pain and suffering. In the reality where he has the choice to go with her to enjoy a walk together in the snow or go to surgery to try to continue to find the cure for death, he chooses to walk with her. When this happens, his soul is finally released into the Nebula, which is his Heaven or eternal enlightenment. At this point, his Soul and that of his Queen’s are the last in the Universe… He loses her one more time, but he will see her again when he enters the Nebula... she told him she would be there remember? After all this suffering through all eternity, the right path was shown to him... I say shown because we see that he has the choice again to go into surgery or follow his wife... but when he looks to the halls of the building, to the surgery room, it is all darkness, but he looks at his wife and he sees a bright light... that is the way to go. He goes down the right path finally, as his soul is reaching the Nebula... with this enlightenment, he becomes Buddha... and for all other realities, he will be known as the Buddha of Eternal Suffering.

  1. THINKING MATT Says:

    Up until the last comment I hadn't heard much talk of the obvious SPIRITUAL aspect of the movie, and given the directors previous movies, and a rumor he is a devoted christian...we can't think of even talking about the "futuristic" dream scenes or the "tree of eternal life" without using the word SPIRITUAL. Obvious strong buddhist symbolism and message, anyone who wants to truly understand the symbolism in the movie must research buddhism and the christian "eden" allagory. That being said let us not ignore the yin and yang message, the dualities, the conflict. there is a message of numbers as well. 1 he is ALONE, just him all by himself. 2 he is in love when there are two of them. 3 there are 3 realities , 3 dimensions, 3 versions of each of them, 3 moments in time: past , present, and future. and If we consider time travel as even being a possibility then there are two rules: everything that is going to happen in time travel HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. all timelines occur simultaneous, and a change in the beginning, is the change in the end. There is also a hint of them being like adam and eve or even being them, hence Tom is referred to as "the first father" who would be adam, but I dont see much more supporting symbolism than that, it was a mere casual refrence. the thing to keep in mind when deciphering this work is that it is NOT a clear cut and dry true-or false paradigm. This is not a "MOVIE" in the traditional sense but , yes a work of ART. I am an artist and a good analogy to consider is this, when making art the artist may get a hint of a feeling or an emotion that calls for him/her to make a slight rendering of somthing, a light brush stroke in one corner of a painting or just a hint of a certain colour...so many things in this movie being a work of art, its apperent the directors imagination was being literal and producing things strongly related to THEE story but also made hints and gestures at things that didnt necessarily have to be there for any reson at all.
    It is a failure as a movie to me, in the traditional sense, but that is because people see movies for entertainment not to study or research or see a visual representation of a religous collage thrown together to trigger emotions...thats art and as ART I LOVE IT. so I would never reccomend it to someone as a MOVIE, but if they have 90 min of time to dedicate to a book or art or meditation they might as well use this movie in lieu of that. I think it is absolutley necassary to trace the work of art back to its source to get the full meaning and see the "big picture". There is a Novel and obviously that is the key, understanding the author of that novel and his influences might help as well. From earlier posts I gather the novel depicts a detailed and complex literal story involving time-travel and such, I believe that to be an easy way of seeing the story . I also believe the director felt it either hard to portray it exactly like the book or too far fetched for some audiences to grasp the far out plot of the book containing reincarnation,time travel and the future of space travel.
    I believe he filmed it in a way that a "REALIST" could convince themselves of a present-day doctor in love story with two peoples imaginations wandering to deal with the tragedy in front of them, that is a completley valid interpertaion of the movie I believe, and when thinking of that view I like to imagine that there was meaning behind Toms visions/fantasies being those of the FUTURE and Izzys being those of the PAST. He as a doctor would look to the future, and her being a ignored woman about to die, would look to the things of the past, the way he used to be ther for her? and all she has before she goes...

    A more FAR-OUT/sci-fi lovin person, or math lover or steven hawking reader might delight in the time travel take...that has him in an ALCUBIERRE BUBBLE (look it up) traveling thru space and time.
    **and if we do give into this view then we must also accept the past as reality as well..im pretty sure, it seems there are clues that point to either BOTH being fantasy or all being real moments in time.**

    the more ARTSY types will love it for obvious reasons, whether visual stunning cinematics or the poetry of it all, or the ambiguousness of it.

    A SPIRITULIST will conceive ther own feelings of nirvana or purgatory or whatever religious archetype they want to derive from it, hell I thought there might be a hint at the greek myth of Narcissuss at the end, his goal was in vain ya know.

    There is definatley wisdom to be taken from its message and its open endedness leaves room for more than just the commonly interperated moral of "enjoy life while its here" "you only get one shot" or "loved ones are more important" or "death is the road to awe", "you become one with the universe when you die", Let it go, these are all valid understandings of the films moral-of-the-story.

    Yet I also see it from the view of an artist in hollywood trying to make a point perhaps, with the movie itself, being a mixture of religious themes, and being something that is open to interpretation, it is like LIFE in a way, and we all can derive our own understanding of the "bigger picture" we can be mad that it is not clear, we can argue, or we can talk about it and try to find the harmony of the different views, the common ground between all different views. since each one of us experiences life differently and only sees a slice of the the pi (he he).

    perhaps I've turned a man who threw a bunch of random crap together on a screen into a saint lol, as we all try to find a meaning in nothing lol.
    seriously though I would consider that "random crap" theory if there wasnt a novel written by a different author before hand, and that being the case THAT IS THEE REAL story, so maybe this is a calling for all of us to turn off the tv and go read a damn book.

    I would like to know what the directors take is, what the actors thought, what the screenwriters thought and what the original author thought....I wonder if they all differ?

  1. Carly Says:

    I don't want to push my opinions on this. I simply want to suggest that maybe in order to try to understand what was meant by this film, it would also help to actually read and understand the various themes and ideas located in the mayan myths that are so important to Izzi and so central to it's message. If you do want to read about it, (I'm currently writing a research paper about the mayan and medieval christian views on death for class, so I've been really looking into this) I suggest you find a copy of the Mayan text 'Popul Vuh'...and maybe a copy that has a good introduction that explores it's themes and symbolism in more reader friendly terms. Just a suggestion-I found it really helpful. I already thought a lot about this when I first saw the movie, but watching it after learning all of this background knowledge really gave me a new perspective on it.

  1. Andrei Says:

    C'mon people this really isn't all that hard to comprehend.

    1. Enjoy life as it is. Take a walk with your girlfriend on the first snow instead of working late because someday you'll regret if you don't.
    2. Eternal life is the cycle of nature. Corpses becoming flowers, bushes or trees.
    3. The quest for other kind of immortality is futile. This is quite a naturalistic view, I might add.

    The movie makes use of what they call "symbols", maybe this is why all you Terminator fans out there don't get it.

    Cheers,
    Andrei, Romania

  1. Dave Bias Says:

    I've just seen the film for the first time. On cable. I loved Pi and Requiem for a Dream so much that the reviews for The Fountain gave me pause. I didn't want to risk leaving the theater disappointed with Aronofsky.

    Other than a small story in Wired magazine about the guys who did the nebulae effects and a few short reviews, I purposely avoided all press, publicity, and other writing about this film. I gathered enough to know that I needed to see it fresh and without preconception.

    So...

    I'm not the biggest fan of jazz in the world, but I worked at a club here in NYC for a couple of years where I saw hundreds of shows - many of them the most avant-garde, experimental, improvised, or otherwise out-there (or simply "out" as they say), music that it is possible to see in public.

    Watching that kind of music being performed is like watching a sculptor sculpt or a painter paint. You witness all of the underpinnings, the color choices, the chips and hacks, the flourishes and very often, the mistakes as well.

    I sat staring into space after finishing The Fountain, trying to process what I had just seen. The feeling I had was akin to the feeling I had after one of the aforementioned performances - like I had just witnessed the creation of Art (capital letter intended). I had an impression in my head - a favorable one - that dealt with big topics like love, futility, and the nature of the sexes...

    I would very much like to say that The Fountain was among the great works of the avant-garde and that it's a masterpiece in the medium of film.

    But that would be a bit too generous.

    For me, the film succeeds on many many levels. But it fails in a few key ways:
    a) the fact that despite having seen the same film, we all have different interpretations of the sequence of events and the separation of the real versus the imagined in the characters' world(s).
    b) despite those differing opinions and speculations, several things are understood by most of us as being intended by the writer/director - ie. that the tale of the Conquistador & the Queen is a visual retelling of Izzie's book - but there are equally plausible explanations to the contrary
    c) the elements of the film of which there is no consensus are, if we are to take the film at face value, THE most important keys to deciphering the story.

    If this film were to be truly among the very greatest - D.A. needed, in my opinion, to be a bit more diligent in the planting of clues to properly frame the final 10 minutes in the minds of the viewers. Not in a "wrap it up with a bow on top" kind of way - but enough, at least, for the simplest "facts" of the movie to be clear.

    I say this because I have seen great films that are just as oblique - but are slightly less opaque. Such movies leave the viewer with profound feelings of discovery and empathy - that the characters portrayed are, ultimately, part of themselves. And while the viewer may leave the theater with questions, the director has truly given them the tools to form answers.

    That said, this is a 4.9-star film in a sea of 2-star schlock. Despite the missing details, this film spoke to me in the same way that some of those jazz performances spoke - obliquely, impressionistically - with a voice loud enough to be heard, but in a language just south of proper English.

    I agree and disagree in varying degrees with every single post on this page.

    What I do know - or, at least, what I think Aronofsky gave me enough to know - is, simply, this:

    For entry into the eternal, Obsessive Love/Nobility/The Tree of Knowledge - as personified by Hugh Jackman's various characters must be balanced by True Love/Bliss/The Tree of Life - as personified by Rachel Weisz' characters. All the rest is, as the Inquisitor said, just the skin and blood of our own personal prisons

    yrs,
    dave

  1. olivier Says:

    The present is real, although in the context of a series of flashbacks that come to him at the end of his life.

    The past is Izzy's book. Everything past the point where the high priest stabs the conquistador is his version of Chapter 12. (He may have written it, or he may be writing it in his mind years later - as he lies dying.) Of course the story is a metaphor for the reality of the present. The final chapter is his interpretation of his fruitless quest for eternal life.

    The future is Tom dying. You can look at it as his soul ascending to "heaven" or his consciousness tying some major loose ends before his light goes out. Everything we see is a metaphor. The bubble, the tree, the nebula: imagery. He is not a space traveler. (Please.) The tattooed rings on his arms show how many years he endured after her death. I haven't counted, but there are probably 40-50 rings there, putting him somewhere around 80 or 90. (He has thus not conquered death with his research.) Whether he actually inked himself every year after she died or the ink is imagery isn't really relevant. (The fact that he tattoos himself inside the bubble suggests that the rings aren't real.) The wedding band tattoo probably is real, however.

    In the final moments of his life, he relives his last days with her and the heartache of losing her. At the very end of the movie, he finally lets go of his pain and regret and embraces death. That's when he leaps out of the bubble and floats up into the nebula solo, all enlightened.

    Remember that moments before he leaps out into his little single-serving karma bubble, Izzy comes to him as both herself and the queen and tells him he will be with her in death. This is what allows him to finally accept and embrace death.

    The tree inside the bubble represents a number of things. Izzy, her life, his own life, hope, his love, his will to live, his own strength, and probably a few other things as well.

    He also allows himself to relive his last days with her as he should have - spending what little time he had with her instead of chasing after a cure that would not come in time.

    It's definitely a pretty mysterious and cerebral movie. I just watched it and I liked it a lot. It's nice to finally see a movie that makes you use your brain for a change.

  1. will Says:

    something to confuse or maybe explain things better :

    13.0.0.0.0 the last day of the mayan calander, also known to some as the day of the end of the world...december 12th, 2012 in the gregorian calender...

    perhaps the present in the movie is actually 5 years in the future here...with december 12th being the day izzy dies. this would coincide with her referring to the first snowfall of the year as she asks tom to go on a walk a few days or weeks before her own death...

    I loved this movie, so trippy and beautiful!
    In mayan belief, the sacred tree is a metaphor for the milky way galaxy...it fits well with tom's journey through space to xibalba

  1. Billdad Says:

    Great page guys.

    Watched this film with my sister and her partner and afterwards we all spent about an hour talking about our ideas of what had just happened.

    Really loved this film as did my fellow viewers, I am deinitely going to see it again.

    Glad to see it has sparked as much debate as i thought it would.

    Any Donnie Darko fans on here by any chance?

    Bill.

  1. tostien Says:

    In regards to the statement in this article about Aronofsky's religion, he is is Jewish. He is not very observant, but his Jewish background shows through in all his movies... it's much more obvious in Pi and Requiem for a Dream. People write about what they know.

    With regards to this movie, there are, of course, dozens of ways of interpreting it ranging from entirely 'real', to entirely 'not real', from very religious, to atheist. The interpretations serve greatly to determine the beliefs of the person interpreting it.

    Personally, I could read this entirely into traditional Jewish beliefs and all three time periods being real and reincarnations... in Judaism, there is a concept of being reincarnated a maximum of three times. The flashbacks are what happened or what he should have done... but under this interpretation, it's told in the future scene with the rest being flashbacks to what happened or what should have happened and as the mind goes, different things interrupt and the protagonist flows from one thought to the next. He only gets it right at the end... perhaps the future time is an afterlife sort of place... perhaps it is in his mind or not connected to any physical reality, i.e. just his soul working things out... a process of seeing his prior two lives and what he did, and what he should have done... feeling regret at what he did wrong, seeing how it should have gone, and seeing that even though he did something wrong, he is thankful for feeling close to the source of creation, and this keeps repeating in a never ending and accelerating cycle.

    However, in another sense... none of the worlds are 'real'. They are all just places where his soul was placed to be tested. He failed the first time, he failed the second time... or did he?

    Or further... who says time is real? All these things ARE happening concurrently. The 'future' scenes are what's going on in his soul (or sub-conscious if you prefer). The 'past' and 'present' are when his soul was placed into the confines of time and how it did in each place and how he acted 'concurrently', only arriving at the solution for his soul based on what he learned in each itterance.

    ....or perhaps it's just in the present and the past is just another way of looking at the same concepts to help us understand why people are acting the way they are... it's hard to understand his feelings in the present sometimes, but when you compare it to the guy in the past in a variation on the same feelings, it's boiled down to be more simple so we can more easily understand. However, I still hold the future is not 'in this world'.

    At first glance, I can see how a person would think the movie is stupid. It's not well developed, but what is developed is developed in triple in all of 1.5 hrs... there needs to be time connecting the times and a conclusion, so you're left with what? Maybe 22 minutes for the plot to develop? Thus, it has to be fairly simple ... but when you realize it's about human emotions which transcend through time and putting that in a physical medium... not bad at all. He's dealing with very abstract concepts. If you choose to only see the physical, that says something about you and not the director.

    As with Requiem for a Dream and Pi, he's very innovative, but you have to have a mind trained to understand what he's showing you. He'll never be main stream because, respectfully, the masses will never get it and those who do aren't usually the type of people to watch movies.

  1. tostien Says:

    In regards to the statement in this article about Aronofsky's religion, he is is Jewish. He is not very observant, but his Jewish background shows through in all his movies... it's much more obvious in Pi and Requiem for a Dream. People write about what they know.

    With regards to this movie, there are, of course, dozens of ways of interpreting it ranging from entirely 'real', to entirely 'not real', from very religious, to atheist. The interpretations serve greatly to determine the beliefs of the person interpreting it.

    Personally, I could read this entirely into traditional Jewish beliefs and all three time periods being real and reincarnations... in Judaism, there is a concept of being reincarnated a maximum of three times. The flashbacks are what happened or what he should have done... but under this interpretation, it's told in the future scene with the rest being flashbacks to what happened or what should have happened and as the mind goes, different things interrupt and the protagonist flows from one thought to the next. He only gets it right at the end... perhaps the future time is an afterlife sort of place... perhaps it is in his mind or not connected to any physical reality, i.e. just his soul working things out... a process of seeing his prior two lives and what he did, and what he should have done... feeling regret at what he did wrong, seeing how it should have gone, and seeing that even though he did something wrong, he is thankful for feeling close to the source of creation, and this keeps repeating in a never ending and accelerating cycle.

    However, in another sense... none of the worlds are 'real'. They are all just places where his soul was placed to be tested. He failed the first time, he failed the second time... or did he?

    Or further... who says time is real? All these things ARE happening concurrently. The 'future' scenes are what's going on in his soul (or sub-conscious if you prefer). The 'past' and 'present' are when his soul was placed into the confines of time and how it did in each place and how he acted 'concurrently', only arriving at the solution for his soul based on what he learned in each itterance.

    ....or perhaps it's just in the present and the past is just another way of looking at the same concepts to help us understand why people are acting the way they are... it's hard to understand his feelings in the present sometimes, but when you compare it to the guy in the past in a variation on the same feelings, it's boiled down to be more simple so we can more easily understand. However, I still hold the future is not 'in this world'.

    At first glance, I can see how a person would think the movie is stupid. It's not well developed, but what is developed is developed in triple in all of 1.5 hrs... there needs to be time connecting the times and a conclusion, so you're left with what? Maybe 22 minutes for the plot to develop? Thus, it has to be fairly simple ... but when you realize it's about human emotions which transcend through time and putting that in a physical medium... not bad at all. He's dealing with very abstract concepts. If you choose to only see the physical, that says something about you and not the director.

    As with Requiem for a Dream and Pi, he's very innovative, but you have to have a mind trained to understand what he's showing you. He'll never be main stream because, respectfully, the masses will never get it and those who do aren't usually the type of people to watch movies.

  1. Snake Says:

    Simply put best by Kubrick years ago.

    "I would not think of quarreling with your interpretation nor offering any other, as I have found it always the best policy to allow the film to speak for itself."

    This video from Toronto has a Q & A with the Director and has good info, about his thoughts on the film.

    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Aronofsky-And-Weisz-Explain-The-Fountain-3394.html

    He mentions a fascination with the Mayan Culture.

    Other fun stuff one must consider. From IMDB trivia.

    Tom's last name is Creo which is Latin for "I create." Creo also means "I believe" in Spanish

    Izzi's full name (Izzy Creo) is quite a close phonetic translation for Spanish "And yes, I do believe" (Y sí, creo). At the very last scene, Tommy wipes the snow away and Izzi's name is shown on her grave.

    Wikipedia Has a good page as a starting point for anyone who want to know more about the story and meaning of the flim.

    Here is a big slice of it I recommend you check out the real page so you can verify the footnotes and comments that the Director has made, which will only help you understand his vision more.

    Some of the page has some fun BS like this blog. However facts from the director with proven footnotes have not been mentioned, in this blog. The video and Wikipedia is a good start before deciding what the journey is for you.

    The Fountain begins with a paraphrase of Genesis 3:24, the Biblical passage that reflects the fall of man. Hugh Jackman emphasizes the importance of the fall in the film: "The moment Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge, or good and evil, humans started to experience life as we all experience it now, which is life and death, poor and wealthy, pain and pleasure, good and evil. We live in a world of duality. Husband, wife, we relate everything. And much of our lives are spent not wanting to die, be poor, experience pain. It's what the movie's about."[24] Darren Aronofsky had also interpreted the story of Genesis as the definition of mortality for humanity. He inquired of the fall, "If they had drank from the tree of life [instead of the tree of knowledge] what would have separated them from their maker? So what makes us human is actually death. It's what makes us special."[36]


    A gold-hued scene in which Tom (Jackman) faces a hallucination of Isabel (Weisz) beside the Tree of Life
    The theme of thanatophobia is described by Aronofsky as a "movement from darkness into light, from black to white", tracing the journey of a man scared of death and moving toward it.[37] The theme is highlighted by Aronofsky's use of visual language, such as shooting Jackman's characters in shadows until the story's light-saturated conclusion, while Weisz's characters are awash with light in each period.[38] Along these lines, Aronofsky made use of the color of gold, as gold was the sought-after treasure of the conquistadors. "When you see gold, it represents materialism and wealth and all these things that distract us from the true journey that we’re on," Aronofsky said.[37] The director also used similar geometric constructs in the film to distinguish the three chronological narratives. The 16th century conquistador's tale reflected triangles through pyramids and constellations, the 21st century researcher's period reflected rectangles through doors, windows, and computer screens, and the 26th century contemplative's journey reflected circles and spheres through the spacecraft and stellar bodies.[39]

    Darren Aronofsky emphasized that the narratives in their time periods and their respective convergences were open to interpretation. The director maintained that the film's intricacy and underlying message is "very much like a Rubik's cube, where you can solve it in several different ways, but ultimately there's only one solution at the end".[40] Critics have observed recurring, mythological references to themes of enlightenment, redemption, the Hindu concept of cycle of birth and death and moksha, the Biblical Tree of Life,[41] the Buddha,[41] and the world-tree Yggdrasil.[42] In the same vein, Jackman views the story as a modern myth that helps people to understand the meaning of life, explains the unexplainable, and fosters understanding. "These fables may not make scientific sense, but somehow they explain the world to us," said Jackman.[43] Aronofsky later explained the film has an atheist meaning. "It's about this endless cycle of energy and matter, tracing back to the Big Bang", he said. "We're all just borrowing this matter and energy for a little bit, until it goes back into everything else, and that connects us all."[44]
    Journalists Victoria Alexander and Robert Butler theorise that Tommy Creo's storyline is a grief-induced hallucination[45] caused by ingesting the bark of the tree.[46] Brian Orndorf describes the visual artifacts of Creo's struggle as "the mental breakdown of a man who is looking for hope in all the wrong places."[47] Strictly fact-based analyses offer the film's central ("real") essence as "the final three days of... two people very believably and relatably in love,",[41] suggesting its abstract and futuristic elements to be non-literal representations akin to "astral projection"[48] or "the psychology of survivor's guilt."[49] A subset of reviewers (Anderson, Brussat) take the Tom-present, Tom-future and Izzy-tree comparisons more directly, asserting that Creo's wife has transformed into[50] or become part of the tree[51], to which Dana Stevens adds "Tommy Creo, the present-day husband and scientist, should never have climbed into that bubble in a centuries-long attempt to defer his wife's death."[52] More middle-of-the-road interpretations posit the notion of three distinct storylines to be "sort of true and yet not true",[41] introducing an in-between possibility wherein the narratives might exist on multiple levels.

    All ideas are right. However knowing facts from the director, and producer, that do exist are curial to research before you let your mind fill in the gaps.


    The director also mentions watching the Matirx and thinking about making a sci fi story.

    Who know the real answers no one. Its a flim and flims can be fun crazy etc... Enjoy. However further research from actually quotes from those who worked on the movie will help you in your quest to find your own meaning.


    Right on to everyone and however you let the film speak to you.

    Cheers

  1. Carrie Says:

    Robert,
    I was just WAAAITTTING (!!) for someone to share my vantage point! Your explanation was almost precisely congruent with mine!

    The Fountain? Spectacular! One for the books!

  1. B... Says:

    The movie is a act of pure brilliance, a true masterpiece in disguise to the sheep who walk the earth. Simply one of the greatest films ever made.

    thank you Aronofsky

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