Tobey Back For Spider-Man 4 Only If Spidey 3 Performs

By Josh Tyler: 2007-05-03 00:18:25

Tonight I got an email from one our most sure thing inside sources with big details on what’s up with the future of Spider-Man after the release of Spider-Man 3 this weekend. For months now we’ve all been swimming through rumors over whether or not Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, and director Sam Raimi will be back for more with this one, and till now we’ve never been able to get a straight answer as to what’s really going on inside Sony.

Well now we have one. Our inside source, let’s call it Secret Squirrel (I loved that cartoon), has been hiding in the air ducts and janitorial closets over at Sony Pictures and has the dirt on exactly where things stand with the franchise. The surprising news here is that the future of Spider-Man seems to depend, in large part, on how many of you turn up to see Spider-Man 3 this weekend. The thing is, Raimi, Maguire, and Dunst are demanding massive paychecks to even consider re-signing. Sony, is only willing to pay them if Spidey 3 does the kind of massive business they’re expecting it to do. So step one to getting them back may simply be about all of you buying tickets this weekend.

The politics over at Sony are pretty complicated, so here’s a direct connect to Secret Squirrel with all the details:

This weekend is crucial to Sony and the cast of Spider-Man 3 on so many levels that you would be surprised. Of course you know the story of how much this film cost and how much they hope this film breaks records this weekend ( It will) but I doubt you know that the negotiations for the cast to come back also depend on how much this film makes in its run.

It’s rumored that Tobey will get about 20 million to come back for another Spidey film but that’s not what I am hearing. I’m hearing that he could get about $25 to $30 million for it, but it depends if Spidey 3 makes it to the same vicinity as the last two films in terms of box office. Now those in Sony don’t want to give Tobey or the returning cast that kind of money because they want to lock the cast down for the next three films instead of one and they want to do it cheaply, so they are looking at other actors to continue the franchise in a cheaper way and if the movie opens big and makes a boat load of cash, Tobey and the cast has a huge advantage in negotiations.

In negotiations though, there are many factors involved. One is ego, second is respect and the last is worth; and some of these factors play a crucial role in what will happen with Spidey 4. Sam Raimi was pretty much brow beaten into putting the character Venom into Spidey 3, that’s been established already. Spidey 3 was only supposed to have the character of Sandman as the main villain with the character of Harry playing in the middle, (The story in Entertainment Weekly of the Vulture being a villain in this film was spin to excuse the inclusion of Venom) so he really could not make the film he wanted to make. Sam was given almost full reign and trust when he did Spidey 2 and that film is considered a landmark in terms of super hero films and in sequels but as usual, people got possessive and greedy (Avi Arad and others) and wanted to leave their mark on the series as well, so Spidey 3 (from what I heard from more than a few people who has seen it) feels uneven, awkward and over stuff because of the interference. If Sam does come back to the franchise, he might want a little more control over it and that might not happen because there are so many people who want to dictate the direction of the series and Sam might not want the problems he faced with Spidey 3 again.

So don’t be surprised if they get a new director when they officially announce Spidey 4. Tobey on the other hand has been flip flopping about being involved in the next film for ages now and he would to it if Raimi does come back (and he gets a huge paycheck). Kirsten Dunst would as well but it’s also up to Sony if they willing to pay to have them back. Again, money is a huge issue here and they want to lock them in for three films instead of one so they might just cut them loose completely if in fact they could. The box office of Spidey 3 will be a big factor in Sony’s decision making in keeping both actors as well as Sam Raimi’s decision to stay with the series if he chooses to.

So what happens if nobody comes back for Spider-Man 4? Doesn’t matter. Sony is moving on anyway. Secret Squirrel has the scoop on who they’re looking at for replacements. The names being circulated for replacing Maguire we’ve heard before, but this is the first I’ve heard of possible Mary Jane recasting.

Peter Parker:
Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Jake Gyllenhall are the front runners as of now but word is that a third name might be thrown in the mix as well.

Mary Jane:
Mandy Moore, Alexis Bledel and Camilla Belle are the ones being mention for the role as of now but more names could be added later as well.

As for Spidey 4, its going to be a start of a new trilogy that includes this cryptic message that my friend was given. “A marriage, a death and a birth” My friend figured it out already thanks to a relative who is a comic geek, so you might as well.

SS is one of the most reliable anonymous sources we have, but it’s still an anonymous source. Seriously folks, I know how much you all hate them. Secret has given me enough nails on info in the past that I believe this information can be trusted, but since you don’t know who’s giving it to me you have absolutely no reason to take it as fact. Remember, it’s all just rumor until there’s an official confirmation. Heck, right now it sounds like everything is still up in the air anyway. True or not, Spider-Man 4 could still go any which way.

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Dindi Says:
May 3rd, 2007 at 07:22
oh and Alexis Bledel....Ive never see her in anything so I dont know if she can act but she looks not unlike the Mary Jane of the comics....or not?

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/5008/Events/5008/AlexisBled_Ausse_9506543_400.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Bledel,%20Alexis

Dindi Says:
May 3rd, 2007 at 07:23
Wentworth Miller as Peter Parker/Spider-man.....discuss

Stuart Says:
May 3rd, 2007 at 14:14
Horrible idea. Discussion over.

big J Says:
May 3rd, 2007 at 22:04
Why don't you ask your secret source who the hell will play betty in the incredible hulk.

Josh T Says:
May 3rd, 2007 at 22:08
Are people actually interested in Incredible Hulk? Remaking a movie that's just a couple years old?

Anyway, here's the last casting rumor for Betty in Hulk: The Do Over - http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Hulk-Is-Not-Green-4991.html

Sony Pictures Says:
May 6th, 2007 at 13:36
Columbia Pictures press release, 5/4/07
"The anticipated success of Michael Bay's Transformers this 4th of July weekend has put the spotlight on actress Megan Fox who has been cast to play Mary Jane in the next Spider-Man film, the fourth in the series directed by Sam Raimi. Raimi was quoted as saying, "Megan embodies the characteristics of the comic-book Mary Jane in a way that satisfies the fans with a visual feast on the eyes. Kirsten was great but she's expressed that she'd like to move on. We are glad to have Megan aboard." Spider-Man also marks the return of Dylan Baker as Dr. Curt Connors (aka. The Lizard) and will be introducing Gerard Butler as Kraven The Hunter."

Megan Fox
http://bp2.blogger.com/_vr95kiq429M/Rjw73iSeJgI/AAAAAAAAAAc/Ap_zalT4vms/s1600-h/normal_80hopeandfaiths3113rt.jpg

Mary Jane Watson
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/e/ee/225px-Maryjaneross.png

Source
http://movies.sonypictures.com/articles/753/753313p1.html

griff Says:
May 6th, 2007 at 13:36
this is the biggest bout of bulls#&t i've ever heard. Sorry you guys are a little late with your rumors, because it was allready confirmed, Raimi has allready said (if the script is good i will be back for 4,5, and 6), same thing with tobey, and dunst. this movie has allready made 70 million over seas on the first night. so there is your answer to that.

mike Says:
May 6th, 2007 at 13:38
are you serious..... mandi moore and all those other people... hell no.. that would mess up the whole outlook of the movie.. that is sad... i would chop my dick off if that ever happened.

Sacha Says:
May 6th, 2007 at 22:20
Been a huge Spider-Man fans all my natural born life, Saw Spidy 3 Last week as I work in my local cinema. I do see why some may think that it may not be the best for example, the cheese with the dancing, The butler (were in the blue hell did he decide to talk in the series. But all in all It was a pretty good film even if its the worst out the 3. Thing is I hate it personally when they change actors, and even though I felt Maguire may not have been my 1st choice for Peter parker he has definatly grown on me and I really hope that they keep the same cast for the next 3 pictures as it will keep the films consistant and be possible the 1st comic book movie franchie to do so. I`d love Sam Rami come back as He has done a good job with the series but then again a new director could bring somthing fresh, Guess time will tell.

Kristen Says:
May 7th, 2007 at 01:06
Spiderman 3 has already been a sucess across the globe! If they change the actors, the next film may not hit so big. And so far out of all the marvel comics that turned into films, Spiderman has been my favorite! Superman was a more popular hero than Spiderman, but it turns out that more people like the webslinger better! You can tell by how many people even went to watch Superman and the enormous amount of Fans that came in the first day Spiderman 3 came out! If you change the cast, you may change the whole entire mood of the next few films (if there are any?) Although Tobey Maguire isn't drop dead gorgeous (He's Pretty cute though) if you change the main character it will ruin everything. And it isn't easy for the fans to see new actors, when they were so used to the originals. So what if you they have to pay the old actors more money? They'll be swimming in cash after the whole entire series is done. And when the whole story is done, more and more people will tend to buy other spiderman products, and be more obssesed by it, leading the franchise to more money!

Kristopher Amari Says:
May 7th, 2007 at 11:40
I agree that this film felt like there was just too much they were trying to cover, but it was still great. Peters changes, the action was excellent (you can really see the progression in all three movies how much better the studio has gotten with effects and it works, making it seem like Spidey is really learning more about what he can do and how he can move)... anyway, as for the opther stuff, i staying safely away from the rumour mill for now, but I will throw in my two cents; Although Parker is supposed to be getting a little older, I think if they had to pick another kid to play him, Joseph Gordon-Levitt seems like a good choice. Better start hitting the gym NOW Joey.

ankit Says:
May 9th, 2007 at 08:54
will spidey4 gonna release; if yes then why so late in 2009-10. just release it as soon in 2008. i'm very crazy for it!. and please don't change the cast. i love tobby and kristen both.

Jared Says:
May 11th, 2007 at 02:20
Yea. Spiderman 3 should've been Sandman only, and Peter gets the Symbiote and uses it to destroy Sandman somehow. Then #4 could be the Lizard , and maybe Shocker and Rhino. Throw Venom into it at the end (like in the show how it happened). Then #5 is Vulture then Venom kills him or something. And #6 finale would be Carnage. What's so hard about that. I'd love to see them all :D

Sal Says:
May 12th, 2007 at 03:08
Here's the deal...Spider Man 3 did better than the first 2 combined! So obviously you HAVE to make 4, 5 and 6. But here is the catch. If you replace Toby and Kirsten you CANNOT release this movie sooner than at least 2012 or so. Think about it...if you are going to recast the 2 main characters (they have killed off the rest i.e. Harry, Eddie, Norman and soforth) you must give your audience time to "forget" about Toby and Kirsten. It's sad, but thats the only...THE ONLY...way Spider Man 4, 5 and 6 would half way work out for the best. If you keep the current actors though...by all means, lets see Spider Man 4 in 08/09!!

calvin Says:
May 13th, 2007 at 00:22
hey u know what i think, that spiderman 3 did good, but not as good as I expected it to be. Now if ur gonna make 4, 5, and 6 whatever u think of doing do not change the cast,cause I dont see any other person fit in as Peter, M.J, or Harry Osburn and all of the others. As for the villians the 4th should have the Lizard only, and 5 should be scorpion, and 6 should be Carnage but if its like rated PG-13 thats not gonna be that exciting they should make it like rated R or at least 18-A cause Carnage is one crazy idiot cereal killer.

Kyle Says:
May 16th, 2007 at 20:03
Your kidding... (I hope) changing the actors?!?!?!??!?! Oh my God! Don't, Toby and Kristen ARE Peter and Mary Jane! Serouisly? Mandy Moore for M.J.? If you do that... You'll get like only $500,000. Just pay Toby and Kristen like $40,000,000 and probably the 4th film gonna make more than $500,000,000. So umm... PAY THEM! Or count 10... NO! 100-million fans wasted!

kyle Says:
June 19th, 2007 at 17:23
i think spiderman 4 should have carnage in i haha

Acelyn Says:
June 27th, 2007 at 01:18
here is the deal...in the comics somewhere pete loses his powers temp and someone else takes his place. Ben Riley takes over...the only way they could re-cast is if pete dies off somewhere in the storyline. MJ could be easily taken out but she adds a little spice to the film. Also we gotta have carnage....maximum carnage.
my idea is that the last peice of symbiote infects Casady (key work "infects") and carnage is born. with that the lizard comes about. no more villians need to be brought up till the next movie. Two is enough. That is why spiderman 3 wasn't at its best. Like jared said, spidey's black suit should have been on screen longer along with venom

monica Says:
December 28th, 2007 at 02:38
if there's gonna be a spiderman 4, then they should do it right, with the right(original)people. if not, people would definatly loose total interest, for that messes up the true original spiderman films we know and love!!!

justin Says:
March 17th, 2008 at 22:09
the cast of spiderman is what makes the movie. everybody knows that Tobey Maguire is spiderman/peter parker and i personally dont think that anyone can take his place. i also think if the original cast does not come back in spiderman 4 sony will lose millions and spiderman 4 will be the last.

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