What’s Wrong With TV Land’s Icon List

Are you guys kidding?

Roseanne IS a true TV Icon and deserves to be even higher on the list.

TV Guide once called her the Lucy of the '90s, and they couldn't be more right. Her show was in the Top 5 of the ratings for 6 years, won many awards and Roseanne, herself, was constantly in the tabloids.

It was the first show to do many things: such as have a women control the household (AS WELL AS CONTROL WHAT HAPPENED BACKSTAGE IN THE TV STUDIO), promote homosexuality (first lesbian kiss and re-occuring gay characters were on "Roseanne"), and show a poor white family deal with real issues.

Roseanne paved the way for stand-up comics getting their own TV deals (Seinfeld, Tim Allen) and paved the way for gay shows such as "Ellen" and "Will and Grace".

Thank god for her progressive, funny, wonderful, clever show!!!

Rosanne Barr rated No. 11? You've got to be kidding! Don Knotts as Barney Fife was a hundred times bigger than she could ever hope to be or even Redd Foxx as Sanford had her beaten by a mile as a TV icon. Rosanne Barr, No 11? No way! Was it a political or legal decision?

So many jokes in this list. Flockhart, Crowell, Geller, Clooney, Aniston???

Where are: Sid Cesear, Phil Silvers, James Arness, Rod Serling, Don Adams, etc.

Heck - I'd call Mr Whipple (infinetly) more of an icon than Roseanne Barr.

Where is James Arness? I don't know what the man has done to tick off Hollywood. He is probably the least-appreciated star in television history. Let's see he was the star of a show that was on the air during five presidencies. His character was literally larger than life and ask anybody born before 1970 who James Arness is they would be able to tell you. If fact, Entertainment Weekly rated Gunsmoke the 17th Best Series of all time a few years ago. So how is the show's star not in the Top 50? Marshal Dillon isn't memorable, but Ally McBeal is now a legend. I would like to know who the hell does these surveys. It goes to show that nobody appreciates or respects history in any form. Where are the likes of Mike Wallace, Robert Young, Raymond Burr, Steve Allen, Merv Griffin, just to name a few? However, Calista Flockhart and Simon Cowell are immortals? This balloting in more peculiar that the 2000 presidential election. Just in case anybody is wondering, I'm 34-years-old. And I don't want to hear that Arness, Burr, et. al. are before your time. I know who Abraham Lincoln was, it doesn't mean I was in Ford's Theatre when he got shot. Isn't that what cable networks like TV Land are supposed to do--keep alive great shows from the past?

See, I'm fine with Jon Stewart being on the list. He and the Daily Show have totally changed the way news works in the last five years, and he's arguably more important than Brian Williams or Katie Couric these days. I was surprised to see Michael Landon on there-- was Little House really that important? And George Clooney!?!? I guess he's standing in for the long-running success of E.R., but wouldn't Anthony Edwards be better for that? Nice to see Ellen on there, though.

Right on about Barker! And don't forget that he boinked one of his prize models, he fired one for not supporting him after boinking said model, then he fired two more longtime models for not supporting him after he he sued the model he fired when she wouldn't support his boinking of models.

These four models had a sum tenure on "Price" of over 60 years, and one was on the show for nearly 30 years. But exec producer Bobbo fired 'em all with so much as a goodbye.

Oh, yeah. He's also been sued like, nine times for sexual harassment, racial discrimination and wrongful termination.

Now THAT'S an icon!!!

I agree that there are definitely some people who I dont totally think belong on the list. Calista Flockhart makes the top 50? Are you kidding me? Ally McBeal was a fad-show and a good chunk of the humor in that series should be credited to the supporting cast. Sure, Brothers and Sisters is doing ok but I still wouldnt consider Flockhart an icon.