And in mentioning that you try to do what you can to make it better in the sequel, just for this film specifically, you are introducing a bunch of new people, but also keeping some continuity with the old film. How do you pick and choose?

It’s tricky. It’s tricky. One of the things we wanted to do after the first movie is, we felt like we didn’t get to do enough ninja stuff the first time around. So, that was a big priority was how do you make a ninja story. It’s tricky to integrate it. So, we actually just said, “We’re not going to integrate it at first. We’re going to let it do that and then come together,” which is dangerous to split story lines and I think we got away with it, but it is dangerous because you’re sort of going, “What’s the motor? Which story am I supposed to be emotionally investing in as an audience member?” So, we wanted to do more ninja. So, I think we succeeded at that. You know, the idea of the President of the United States as a bad guy is such a cool idea. I’ve never seen that in a movie and it’s hard to find original bad guys. So, we thought, “That’s a go.”

And to get Jonathan Pryce back also, it’s...

Exactly. So, those two things were what really sort of locked in the decision making process and then from that point you sort of go, “So what’s the bad president plot and what’s the ninja plot,” and then Joe stared coming out of that. It was funny. There’s as many fans that love Heavy Duty as love Roadblock. There’s a warring thing. It’s sort of like Flint and Duke. It’s two decidedly different camps and so you can’t please both sides of the equation, but I think Roadblock came in part because I just loved the name. Roadblock is a great name and then you put Dwayne as Roadblock, well that’s almost like a double positive, isn’t it.

Well, that is kind of a point, I mean Dwayne Johnson has kind of earned the name, Franchise Viagra and I’m just curious, from a producer’s standpoint, it must be amazing to have a guy with that much charisma and that size also just as your action star.

It’s great, but the thing about him which I think people under-appreciate is he’s able to somehow able to remain emotionally accessible despite his size, despite his physicality, despite the danger that’s represented by a guy like that. That’s what i really like about him is that he’s also able to have a sense of humor, but even more. There’s a warmth. I mean, you see him with his daughters. You see him at home. There’s a naturalness to that which makes you route for him on a different level than you might otherwise.

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