Scoop: Terminator 4 Plot Details

I seen the 1st terminator, it was not even a big hit, cameron made it a hit. with t2 and then t3 was decent.

But T1 was low budget movie, that god lucky and had a cult following, now T2 made Arnold big again and T3 was still solid.

But we all wanted to see the timeline and movie come together, if they are doing 3 movies then great. but i do not see how bail can pull of being in his 20's in this movie.

they cant completely screw the time line, and at the same time revamp the whole series / movie. Bail is a bad choice, to much conflict, esp with him doing batman movies. Bail is okay, hes decent, but I am not sure he can carry John connor as we would like to see him.

Now we got the g/f who is future wife and has kids to connor, how they play this also, wow. T3 brought alot of stuff into this new movie, that could just as easily wreck it.

the machine gun and bail / helicopter pic, looks bad, real bad, we know, a m16 can not kill a terminator and why would he have one ! they just waist your time and get ya killed. so i sure hope they got the big weapons ! As John connor would not even waist his time with a gun that can not kill them.
the comabt clothing, wow, also looks to be a issue, john would not even where that, his personality is not like that, hes also not a person, character that would even do that type of attack role !

hes a planner a thinker, leader, do you really think hes now gonna be a grunt and war person in the movie and people are gonna except it ! what a mistake !

i hate to be negative, but really, i been watching this series since the 1st one, before it was even a hit.

some of you forum posters,. miss the most important idealism into this series. john is not a fighter, but a thinker , planner and smart person, he teaches !

this was in 1,2 & 3. he teaches ! hes also tech savy hacker.

if they miss this and do not have this be 25% of the movie, it will fail. if they try and capture tha crappy video game terminator saga, yikes.

yeh but thats like saying star wars wouldnt be as good without luke skywalker or han solo? an they made 3 more without them in it!! and yoda didnt appear till the 2nd star wars! they cant have arnie in tehm all, i think it needs a chane of direction or it just gets boring! there is no suprise left in having arnie coz we know he's the good guy now!!

Hi guys , it all sounds good and to carry on the franchis is great news,
but it wont be a terminator film without arnie. just like a rocky film without stallone . Or even worse a die hard film without bruce. Yea maybee arnies a little older but hes still the man , that terminator should revolve around. I certainly wont pay my hard earned cash to see a film without its star .

we all have been waiting for a series,but they totally screwed up when they decieded to change the timeline the way they did,so...i'll have to agree with colin.(i.e. they should not include the series in the new films)

I agree with Aaron 100% because John has been with the resistence since the begginging of the was and Reese was born after in the ruins...then he when back in time....whern he is proboly in his 20's....so yes John is older

yeah guys the whole idea is a time paradox me and my friends have been discussing it and we think we have figured it out if you have any questions or comments feel free to e-mail me at oneround1body@yahoo.com

Yeah kb1497, i have no idea how they're going to make that work. I heard rumor that the Rock was actually suppose to take over the actual role of "Arnie".... god what has the world come to? at least christian bale is amazing.

all I know is that is T3 Arnold tells claire danes and nick stahl that he kills john connor in the future. So we will se how that plays out.

I hope they do not include the tv show into the new film series. Use the dates given in the original two terminators. John is born in 1984, T2 happens in 1995, Judgment day is on August 29, 1997, Reese is born in 2000, T4 occurs in 2019, Skynet is defeated and Reese is sent back in time in 2029.

Don't forget Aaron that the old timeline established had judgement day happening on Aug 29, 1997 when John is 12 and Kyle is not even born yet. After the events of T2 Judgement day moved up to July/Aug 2004 which happened in T3. Since the SCC timeline removes John and Sarah from from that Timeline, T3 is no longer canon, Judgment day is then moved to April 21, 2011 when John is (technically) 26 but physically still 19. Judging by the way he looks, Kyle resse is (in 2008 in SCC) about 7, which means hell be about 10 when the new Judgement day happens. This means in terms of the newest timeline, Judment day will happen with John appearing about 9 years older then Kyle. This means sometime soon after 2027 Reese come sunder John command and we know he goes back to Sarah in 1984, meaning hed be about 26 when he went back, so the timing is off just a bit.

Correction, canon is right, Michael Biehn was 27 when he played Reese in T1 (I thought he was older).

Our source says, “they might connect the TV Series to the original three films as well but that depends if for one Fox decided to continue the series and if the people in charge want to have those plot lines cross over with this new trilogy.�

I'm not in charge but if I, a fan, has any say, it's yes, please continue the series, it's getting realy, really good. The best part is, like the movies, its character driven, not all effects and explosions, its about the people.
And as the story line progresses, I would like to see T3 basically removed from canon and future movies tied in with the show.
Please?

-Kris

Actually John is older than Kyle when he is sent back to save his mother. So they are staying true to the story. They were friends but if you will remember Kyle looks up to John for guidance. He makes this very clear in T1. Also, more recently in the SCC on FOX, they have shown that Kyle was just a little kid when John is a teenager.