The Stars Of Ted Talk R-Ratings, Boundaries, And Teddy Bear Fights
As you may have already heard, Ted is one seriously funny movie. Due out this weekend, the film is completely irreverent and filled with belly laughs, but it also features a great amount of heart and does a surprisingly good job avoiding many of the problems that plague other raunchy comedies. Itís an interesting mix to say the least, and it was just as interesting to hear what the director and actors had to say about the making of it.
I was recently invited to attend a press conference in Los Angeles with the filmís stars Mark Wahlberg, Mila Kunis and Seth MacFarlane. Check out the conversation below, in which Wahlberg discusses his comedic influences, Kunis talks about why she doesnít think sheís funny, and MacFarlane explains the importance of being an equal opportunity offender.
Seth, did the special effects turn out to be more of a pain than you expected?
Seth MacFarlane: No, the special effects were surprisingly a smooth part of the process. We tried a fairly new technique of doing it all live on set, to get an improvisational feel, but it went surprisingly smooth. We had two great studios Ė Tippett and Iloura Ė that just knocked it out of the park for us.
Did you re-write a lot of Tedís dialog in post?
MacFarlane: Yeah, we had a little bit of liberty to do new Ted lines in post, in case something didnít work. That was a luxury that we took advantage of. We would screen the movie and, if something didnít work, weíd try a different line at the next screening. Thatís one of the good things about an animated character.
Mark and Mila, when you initially signed on, were you worried about co-starring opposite a CGI bear? Did you wonder whether it would work, in terms of looking at the eye-line and the stuff youíd have to do with him?
Mark Wahlberg: I was a little nervous at first, but once we started getting into it, I felt comfortable pretty quickly. It was more of a problem working with Mila. Sheís a tough cookie.
Mila Kunis: You know what? It actually wasnít so bad. I didnít have very much physical interaction with the bear. Mine was very circumstantial, whether the bear was to the right of me or to the left of me or to the front of me. I think Mark had it the hardest. For me, it wasnít so frightening. You have a stick and two eyes. As far as the animation or the look of the bear, I was never too concerned with that. Thereís not a question of why MacFarlane can do that, and do it incredibly well.
Wahlberg: They had done a test, too. We got to see a little bit of the bear, before we started shooting. There was a concern of whether it would go into the scene seamlessly with the chemistry, even though Seth and I were having a great time acting opposite each other, and whether it would translate when youíre putting the bear into the actual scene.
Seth, what took so long for you to make a movie?
MacFarlane: Family Guy had that little cancellation thing happen to it, and I wanted to make sure that it was fully on its feet after coming back before I stepped away to do a film because it did mean stepping away from the show completely for at least a year, and that was something that I hadnít done yet. This was an idea that had actually been floating around in my head for a while. I had originally conceived it as an animated series idea and, for a number of reasons, shelved it. And then, when it came time to do my first movie, it seemed like a story that would make a much better film than a series.
Mark, who were comic idols, growing up?
Wahlberg: I donít know. I just grew up watching a lot of old television with my father, like F Troop and Barney Miller. [Det. Stan ďWojoĒ] Wojciehowicz would probably be the one to best describe one of my comic idols. Does anybody know who Wojciehowicz was? I just grew up watching TV. Itís all in the material. I approach a comedy the same way I do a drama. I try to make it as real as possible. Thankfully, Seth was into that. I was worried that maybe heíd want me to do a couple pratfalls, and thatís not really my thing.
Seth, youíre used to a TV-14 constraint on Family Guy, but for this, you knew it would be rated R. Did you find yourself pulling back while having freedom to do more?
MacFarlane: Yeah. Youíre not dealing with the restrictions imposed by the FCC. Theyíre self-imposed. In a way, that does make it harder. You actually have to think about it, as opposed to just taking for granted that youíre not going to be able to do this. With a movie like this, most of it was language. This movieís been labeled hard R, but I donít think of it as a hard R movie. Itís a fairly moderately R movie. Thereís no graphic sex and thereís no heavy drug use. Itís R for language. So, if that doesnít bother you, youíre fine. The first cut of this movie had a lot more uses of the word ďfuck,Ē and we did cut that down somewhat because we found that, even though itís an R-rated comedy and you can do whatever you want, it was starting to eat into the sweetness of the story a little bit. So, you do have to impose restraints on yourself, and it is more difficult than just being told by someone that you canít do something.
You do a brilliant job of showing the clash between youth and adulthood in both this and the TV show. Why is that so prevalent for you?
MacFarlane: Adults acting like children and children acting like adults is generally a pretty reliable comic device. On Family Guy, you have Stewie, who is a baby that acts like an adult and Peter whoís a man that acts like a child. This movie is a bit more textured and has a lot more shades to it, but in terms of the dynamic, weíre essentially playing the teddy bear as the physical manifestation Ė in a symbolic or literal way Ė of Johnís inability to grow up and get on with his life.
How difficult was it to prepare for the hotel room fight with Ted?
Wahlberg: Well, I didnít have to do anything to prepare other than just trust Seth. I just felt so ridiculous flopping around in that room, by myself. But, everybody loves that scene.
MacFarlane: The whole joke of it was that we wanted to play it as realistically as possible. We wanted it to feel like a fist fight in The Bourne Identity, except one of the characters happens to be a teddy bear. I think we pulled that off. Mark just sold it, 150%. Even without the bear in there, when you look at that raw footage with the sound effects and him getting the shit kicked out of him by this invisible adversary, it actually still kind of works. Hopefully, we made it painfully realistic.
Mark and Mila, what do you think is unique or special about Seth MacFarlaneís humor, both in his animated series and this movie?
Kunis: Iíve done so many interviews about Seth that itís kind of redundant for me to say this, but over the years, from Family Guy to Ted, I think that Sethís humor is incredibly socially relevant. Itís not humor for the sake of being humorous. And I think that thereís a certain linear story to his humor. Itís very consistent and itís smart. It doesnít make you feel dumb. Iíve always said that heís brilliant at what he does because he sets people up in low-brow situations with high-brow humor, and thatís one of the hardest things to do. Also, all of his humor is rooted in truth and honesty. From Family Guyís flashbacks to the songs that some of the characters break into to the fact that thereís a movie coming out about a talking teddy bear that nobody seems to be questioning, itís all rooted in truth. Itís very grounded humor. Nowadays, itís very rare to get that.
Wahlberg: That was good. I was just going to say that heís the funniest motherfucker Iíve ever met.
Kunis: I could have said that, too. Fuck! Iíve only known him for 13 years.
When it comes to some of the more offensive humor, how do you figure out where to draw the line?
MacFarlane: In a movie like this, we adhere to the same rule that we generally do with the animated show, which is, if youíre going to make fun of one group, youíve gotta make fun of them all. The clichť is ďequal opportunity offender.Ē In this movie, pretty much every religion, race and creed is poked fun at. I think that, if youíre going to make fun of one group of people, youíve gotta go all across the board. As far as something going across the line, the systems that are in place, as far as the screenings and audience testing, make it pretty clear whatís over the line and whatís not. If something gets a gasp, eight times in a row, at eight screenings, you know itís probably got to go. Thereís been a couple of those jokes. Even on Family Guy, we do screenings of each episode before it goes to full animation and our own staff is not shy about going, ďNo, no, no, thatís way over the line!Ē If youíre getting enough laughs on the way there, itís probably okay. If even your friends are telling you that itís offensive, then theyíre probably right.
How many gasps did you get when you were testing Ted?
MacFarlane: There was only one that I can think of, that I wonít repeat here because it didnít work. For the most part, by the time it got to the test screenings, we had excised most of that material. There was one that we pulled out because the audiences just thought it was too over the line.
There are many films where a character like Lori is treated as a villain, trying to break up the friendship between the two leads, but that really isnít the case in this film. Seth, can you talk about developing that character and, Mila, your approach to playing it?
MacFarlane: Nine times out of 10, in a movie like this, you do see the image of the hands on the hips and the, ďStop this nasty behavior!,Ē tone. Thatís one of the reasons we wanted Mila for this. We tried to make sure it wasnít that on the page, but even where we missed spots, Mila was there to very shrewdly, with laser-light precision, make sure that did not happen. The character has a very valid point. She had the hardest job in the movie, but in a lot of ways, itís the character with the most realistic goal. She has this guy whoís very childish and she likes those things about him. She likes the fact that heís not perfect. She likes the challenge of maybe having to fix this guy, a little bit. But, at the same time, in the higher part of her brain, she wants the stability and she wants the responsible boyfriend whoís going to step up. I hope thatís very relatable. I think her beef with him is legit, in the movie.
Kunis: Yeah, everything that Seth said is correct. It was a hard thing to do because you want to play the fine line of not having to be too cool Ďcause then thatís not realistic, but you donít want to be the nagging girl in the film because then youíre stuck being the nagging girl in the film. Seth was very responsive to anytime that there was an argument that I had, regarding the characterís dialogue, when the response wasnít justified. In all honesty, we had many discussions on set over it, and it was always because I was like, ďThis is coming across too bitchy. Itís not how a woman would react.Ē More times than not, he was like, ďOkay, how do you propose we fix the problem?Ē It was awesome because it allowed me to help make the character be what I wanted her to be, but with Seth MacFarlaneís voice. It was very collaborative, and he was very open-minded to the idea. Itís a hard character to write, especially for a man. I wouldnít even know where to begin, and Iím a female. Youíre damned if you do and youíre damned if you donít. Youíre stuck in this weird limbo.
Mila, is comedy your favorite genre to act in, or are you interested in other genres as well?
Kunis: Somebody was like, ďAfter Black Swan, we didnít really expect you to follow this up with Ted?,Ē and I literally went, ďWhy, because itís funny? Does being funny somehow take away from the quality?Ē It doesnít. Iíve had this argument with MacFarlane many times, but I donít think Iím funny. I really donít.
MacFarlane: I disagree.
Kunis: Thanks, but I donít. That doesnít mean that I donít love comedy, but I would never be able to go on a stage and do a roast. I think I would panic! That being said, I love comedy when itís written well. When someone like Seth MacFarlane gives me dialogue to say that I think is brilliant, I will say the shit out of it and I will make it work to my best ability. But, I will not go and do something that I donít believe in, whether that be comedy, horror, sci-fi, action or whatever genre. It doesnít matter. Itís about quality. If I love Ted and I think thatís a good movie, I donít care if itís funny or sad, as long as itís good. Itís just entertainment. So, I will go in whatever direction Iím drawn to. After Ted, I went and did Oz: The Great and Powerful. I am dying to know what genre people are going to put that movie in. And then, after that one, I went and did Hell & Back, which is a stop-motion animation, R-rated movie. And then, I went and did Blood Ties, which is a cop drama. None of this makes sense. If you look at my movies, they all look like a crazy person chose them, whoís erratic and has no lineage whatsoever, but I choose the work that I believe in.
MacFarlane: You bring in A-list actors to an animated show and it separates the men from the boys. Instantly, you see who is a pretty face and who actually has the chops. Weíve had plenty of A-list people who have come in and weíve seen the Emperorís clothes. For all these years, weíve thrown a lot of very, very subtle comedy at Mila, for the role of Meg, and youíre not seeing her lovely face, youíre hearing her voice. All youíre getting is her ability, and itís tremendous. That, to me, is the best example of all. You are hearing her voice and you are hearing her skill of her comedic timing, and sheís getting laughs and has been for 10 years. Thatís worth noting.
Seth, can you talk about the choices in the music and how much it adds to the humor of the story?
MacFarlane: With the music, theyíre song choices that fit with the movie. Iím a film score junkie. Iím the worldís biggest John Williams fan. I wanted this movie to have a classic film score because I felt like what it would do was play against the edginess of the comedy and earn you some of the harder jokes. You have to have that to balance things out. With Family Guy, for years, thatís what weíve done. Weíve got these hard-edged jokes, but we have a pretty serious musical style. I think it works in tandem with each other.
Did Ted always look like Ted, or was there a process for deciding how Ted would look?
MacFarlane: I wanted to keep the bearís design very simple. Thereís a style of 2D animation that The Simpsons employs and that Family Guy employs. When Homer Simpson is being addressed and heís just sitting there listening, itís just a blank, wide-eyed stare. Thereís something 100 times funnier about that, then if there were a series of Disney-esque, subtle reactions. Each audience member can imprint what they think is going on inside his head, based on their own bullshit, and I wanted to do the same thing with Ted. Oftentimes, CG characters are so humanlike that they come off kind of creepy looking. Have you ever seen Jack Frost, that movie with Michael Keaton, with that terrifying snowman that just gave you nightmares? That would be an example of CG gone wrong, and they all acknowledged it, after that movie. I wanted to keep Ted simple. His eyes are very blank. Thereís a little expressiveness with the eyebrows, but itís a pretty simple design and that was deliberate. I wanted to leave enough to the imagination that what that expression is or what that thought process is would be maybe a little different for each audience member.
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