Captain America: The Winter Soldier directors Joe and Anthony Russo are allowing themselves a victory lap. It won’t last long. Soon, the siblings will have to plunge head first into pre-production on Captain America 3, as the sequel is due to hit theaters in May 2016. But before that, the brothers hopped on the phone with us to celebrate The Winter Soldier now that it’s reaching Blu-ray and DVD.

With good reason. The second Cap film continued Marvel’s white-hot streak of quality entertainment. And it banked enough cash ($259.7M) to become the highest-grossing domestic feature of 2014… a distinction it’s likely to relent to Marvel’s own Guardians of the Galaxy. Needless to say, we had a lot to talk about with the Russos, from Captain America: The Winter Soldier to Marvel’s plans for Captain America 3 and beyond. Starting with…

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They know the title of Captain America 3, and will tell us what it is very soon.
But not during my interview. Which is frustrating. Understandable. But still, beyond frustrating. The title came up in conversation because we were discussing the ways the directors used Scarlett Johansson’s Black Widow in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. She isn’t a sidekick. She’s an integral character, carrying over from The Avengers and establishing herself in Cap’s world. We talked about plans to have Jeremy Renner’s Hawkeye in The Winter Soldier, and their desire to have more heroes in Cap 3.

"I think when people learn the title of Cap 3, they’ll understand that Marvel is continuing to take really big swings," Joe Russo told me. "[That title] is coming soon. Shortly. Very, very soon."

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