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Scoop: Batman 3 Story Details

By Josh Tyler: 2008-05-06 03:48:10

Scoop: Batman 3 Story Details The Dark Knight may still be months away, but planning for a third Batman movie is already happening, somewhere deep in the Warner Bros. lair. Tonight, in a flurry of superhero related messages between me and a long time scooper and friend of the site, we uncovered some of the details about where exactly Batman goes next, after he’s finished with the Joker in Dark Knight.

Make no mistake by the way, Joker really is out of the picture after this movie, at least according to our source. We’re told that the Joker indeed was supposed to be back for another film, and that they did consider simply recasting the part for the inevitable Batman 3, but that those plans have been scrapped after the tragedy of Heath Ledger’s death. Joker has been written out of the Batman 3 script.

Instead, our scooper tells us we’ll get a lot more Two-Face. No surprise there. Anyone who’s seen the recent trailer for The Dark Knight knows the current movie will be dealing with the creation of Batman’s scarred, coin-flipping bad guy. It looks like Batman 3 will continue with his story. We couldn’t get specific details from our source, but she says the third film will be referencing the Batman graphic novels “The Long Halloween” and “Dark Victory”.

“The Long Halloween” seems to deal with a lot of the plot elements we’ll see in The Dark Knight. According to Wikipedia, it involves the Joker, and the creation of Two-Face. More importantly, it involves the evolution of the gang of criminals Batman fights into full fledged supervillains. “Dark Victory” is a sequel to “The Long Halloween”, in the same way Batman 3 will likely be a direct sequel to The Dark Knight. “Dark Victory” continues the story of “The Long Halloween” and seems primarily focused on Two-Face, while introducing Batman’s sidekick Robin. Does that mean we’ll get the return of the boy wonder in Batman 3? If the story follows along this same track, it could.

For any of this complex storytelling to work, they’re going to need director Christopher Nolan. From what our source tell us, he’ll be back for Batman 3… but only Batman 3. Whether the series goes on from there is anybody’s guess, but all indications are that no matter what happens Nolan quits the world of Batman after the third one, and moves on to something else.



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  1. Kris Says:

    Will Robin indeed be the Boy Wonder or will it be another Chris O'Donnell? (No offense to Chris, but he wasnt right for the role)...
    We need to keep with the original story line, Dick Grayson was a kid, not a 20-something, I dont even think he was in high school yet.
    Id rather see Batgirl... though if you watched Batman Begins, Barbara was only a toddler, we have a long way to go...

  1. Aaron Abbott Says:

    Please Mr. Nolan, no Robin!

  1. Eric Says:

    The Joker is a very important character in The Long Halloween. So far from the trailers, not much from either of the graphic novels plot wise has been shown. The death of Heath has made this a whole different situation than intended.

  1. P4perstreet Says:

    Please for the love of god NO ROBIN!!!!!!

  1. John Says:

    Very cool news. Under the right circumstances, I could see Robin being introduced - maybe at the end of the story, like Joker in "Begins" (and, presumably, Two-Face in "Dark Knight"). Chances are, another villain will show up, too...Penguin?

  1. Logan Rules Says:

    Yeah BATMAN!!!!!

  1. CMG Says:

    Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face again? Me hopes so.

  1. John Says:

    We already knew this. Old news.

  1. hbk Says:

    We want Catwoman! batman returns style Catwoman that goes between good/bad

  1. CoffeeJedi Says:

    I really hope they change their minds about the Joker in part 3. While the death of Heath Ledger is tragic, the character himself is needed by the story. Batman just isn't Batman without the Joker.

    As for Robin, I just don't understand the hatred for the character. He's an integral part of the franchise, and can be done right. Have the Grayson's get murdered in part 3 and Bruce take him in to protect him, never intending he learn the truth or stick around longer than a few weeks. By the end of the movie, Dick will discover Bruce's secret and askto avenge his parents. At this point, he should be about 14. If they do a part 4, it can be set 3 years later, and Robin is now finally ready start crime fighting. Give him Nightwing's costume (and perhaps even the name) and there you go.

  1. africanlived Says:

    Re-cast Joker! Please... Batman aint the same! Esp with those stories!

  1. Mark Says:

    @Kris-
    Barbara is not in Batman Begins. James Jr. is though.

  1. John Says:

    There will be no Robin, trust me.

  1. MARK BRYANT III Says:

    They need to use The Mad Hatter in Batman 3 along with Two Face

  1. Alyssa Says:

    I dont know , I think that it would be an insult to Heaths memory to cast a new Joker, so I dont really like that idea. I was really hurt by his death, I still cant believe it. I agree, that they should have another villian I like Catwoman, someone suggested Helena Bonham Carter as Catwoman, I like that idea. She already kicks a$$ as Bellatrix, she could be catwoman. I personally liked all the former Batman movies, they werent as bad as everyone says. My favorite though was the one that came out the year I was born - 89, the first one ever with Jack as the joker.Cant wait to see Heaths portrayal though, he looks awsome.

  1. Ash Talon Says:

    Highly doubtful about this news. My source told me that Nolan's third Batman film will be fast-tracked due to Nolan wanting to wrap up his involvement with the franchise.

    However, it's highly doubtful that Two-Face will be back. Watch DK, and you'll see why.

  1. cubitfox Says:

    Batman= a dark brooding character that alone produces amazing films with deep thought and atmosphere.

    Batman along with Robin= campy crap that not only disgraces comics but films as a whole. Robin set the comic book world back 20 years, just keep the bat by himself.

  1. Tom Says:

    NO ROBIN!!!!

  1. John Says:

    Alyssa: No to Helena Bonham Carter as Catwoman! We need something different than what came before.

    Ash Talon: What is DK? TDK you mean? The third film WILL have Two Face as the main baddie, you can beat on it.

  1. Mitch Says:

    Heath Ledger looks/sounds/and is about the same age as Nate Richert (Harvey from Sabrina The Teenage Witch) and it’s not like he’s career going anywhere. Nolan should recast the Joker with him, or go for a slightly different portrayal with another big name actor in the vain of what he’s doing with the Rachel Dawes character. I really want the Joker to come back for part 3 as he’s Batman’s Darth Vader. Heath even said anyone can play the Joker... AND NO ROBIN! I really could care less about: Two-Face, Scarecrow, or even Ra's returning. Catwoman? Meh...

  1. orange cinema Says:

    i can see depp, gordon-leavitt, or day-lewis doing the joker in heath's absence. any of those 3 with nolan behind them - and we're safe. i know in my heart that part 3 will focus on two-face, in fact we all know it -except a few misguided souls. all i can hope is that WB sit back, shut up, and allow nolan to gracefully exit the series by letting him do ANYTHING he wants. the man is one of our finest directors and truly cares about gotham and it's inhabitants.

    i'd hate to see robin come in while nolan is still here, becasue he has said he doesn't want to, and i don't see it fitting - but if he chose to lob it in at the end for the next director, that could be cool. i'm not sure which new/remaining villian would fit into this world properly, but do we even need to add another baddie? more characters does not a good film make. it'd be just fine with harvey as the main, and joker in a supporting. i was always hoping to see harley quinn, and i think nolan could pull off poison ivy without jts, but who knows...let me just close out by saying yet again, how nice it is to not worry for one minute with a guy like chris nolan in charge. i trust and believe in any decision he makes, for any film he makes.

  1. Jason Todd Says:

    The Dark Knight Returns ~ Frank Miller's graphic novel and then the follow up to that for Batman 3 and 4. And 4 can even be a starting point for the jla since theyre involved. That jla movie thats supposed to happen can be a prequel to the 4th Batman movie.

  1. shane420nsf Says:

    Mitch..."it's not like his(ledger's) career is going anywhere??? tacky comment-
    I highly doubt that nolan will recast Joker-if he appears in the next one it would be a small cameo in Arkhym-perhaps sitting in his cell,seen only in shadows-maybe some footage of Heath not used in TDK as an homage.It'll be TwoFace-and what I'm hoping for -praying for-is Catwoman-Nolan-style-meaning she has no powers,she isn't brought back to life by a bunch of cats licking her all over-she'll be just llike in Year One-a tough as nails hooker in the Narrows who decides to steal instsead of turn tricks-but isn't EVIL-then Batman, tortured by the death of Racheal at the hands of The Joker, will grapple with the powerful attraction he shares w/ this mysterious Catwoman-she might aid him in bringing down TwoFace and whoever else Nolan might work in there.
    There seems like there always needs to be a woman in a Batman flick so no one will think he's gay-and it shoudn't be Vicki Vale, silver St Cloud, Racheal, Talia ai Ghul-there's only one woman for Bruce, and it's Selina Kyle. No Robin-sorry, but in the REAL WORLD no one would drag a 13 year old kid around w/ him into super dangerous situations-it doesn't make any sense-that;s why Joker has makeup on-it has to make sense in the real world or they won't do it.
    So that's what I want for Nolan Batman 3-harvey and Selina and commisioner gordon and more gritty,hard-edged batman stories.
    God,that trailer is awesome-

  1. 3Diddy Says:

    I'd like to see Bane and/or Freeze. Poison Ivy might work but she seems as campy as Robin.

  1. TJR Says:

    There is nothing wrong with re-casting a major character in a film franchise. They did it with Harry Potter and audiences did not turn away.

    You just simply have to find a suitable replacement.

    At the end of the day, a movie is about the story and it's characters more than it is about who plays them.

  1. Superstar280 Says:

    Robin? I'm not to sure how I feel. I love the character, I really do. But I don't think that's the way to go with Nolan's series. Besides, Nolan said before he didn't think he'd ever use Robin. But I do feel they should have Catwoman - especially if they want a character that is not really a villian like she is in the comics now. Catwoman wasn't really a villian in Long Halloween or Dark Victory, she robbed from the mob. I think Nolan would be smarter to go that direction than the Robin direction. Besides, after that mess of a movie they made with Halle Berry, Catwoman/Selina Kyle needs a little redemption.

  1. Kris Says:

    @Mark

    Really, I just assumed it was Barbara, becuase Barb was older than James, Jr. and I didnt see a second kid... It would be better if they set her up as being around 11 or so in Batman Begins, so they could set her up as a 16 year old Batgirl later.

  1. Aj Says:

    Robin was in batman begins. Remember the little boy in the narrows? Thats him.

  1. Skutterfly Says:

    shane420nsf, i think Mitch meant Nate Richert's career isn't going anywhere.

    I would love to see Nolan's take on Mr. Freeze or Clayface (maybe even throw a little Hush cameo in there).

    After TDK no one's going to want to step into the shoes of Ledger. He's going to be amazing.

  1. JRD Says:

    "Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face again? Me hopes so."

    Uh... I'm pretty sure it's gonna be Aaron Eckhart.

  1. nightwingoracle Says:

    Catwoman definitely needs to be in the third movie.

    I would leave Joker out of the third one, due to Heath's passing. Then, recast for a later movie if they go further.

    Professor Hugo Strange would be a great one to do as well.

    As for Robin: Dick Grayson is one of my all-time favorite characters. But I think we're still too early in this run for him to show up.

  1. ddleo Says:

    Almost seems like they're setting up for Bane at some point....
    The bad guys are let out of Arkham and Batman looks like he's tiring after catching them, just like Knightfall
    It's just a big guess at this point but.....

  1. DiZZy Says:

    @ ddleo: For a Bane setup would be pretty good, possibly towards the end of three. Now, if they could have him as the intelligent and deadly person to Batman, being spanish like he is (not that crap in Batman & Robin, being small at first and mentally retarded), and showing his struggle of addiction and weakness of the Venom would be pretty good. And hell who knows, they'll maybe throw in the part of Knightfall having him break Batman's back.

  1. silly_comments_reply Says:

    Okay... Stop your supposelly I know how Batman should be written please!!! Batman will always be Batman Joker or not, Robin is certainly not necessary to the story neither is Batgirl or Catwoman... Stop thinking that the story re-written heu!!! After all, it's not because it was tail a certain way before that it has to be the same way again... What about something new!!!

  1. Ken Says:

    TJR said it just right...not casting a new Joker "out of respect for Heath" is surely not how Heath would have cared for it to go I would imagine.

    Franchises can thrive on change...look at Harry Potter, James Bond, Dr. Who...

    Batman and Joker go hand in hand in these dark tales of the Bat. If Joker was originally intended to continue into the 3rd installment...don't change the horse in midstream.

    My dream movie, at this point, would be Miller's Dark Knight Returns. Burn the sequel to that...but DKR is just BEGGING for the screen. Maybe the success of Watchmen next year will bring it to light.

  1. PRF0321 Says:

    Clayface... anyone?!

  1. geedub Says:

    Frank Millers The Dark Night Returns! It would make the perfect ending to the trilogy and they could get someone to play an older Joker.

  1. toddster119 Says:

    When I saw Batman Begins, I thought Robin didn't belong in this version of Gotham City. Now thinking about it, I would like to see one, but not a kid of 12 or 13 like he was when he first put on the mask, but a teenager who's a more than a bit street smart (ala Jason Todd), someone who seems like he'd belong at the Batman's side... If Robin is eventually put into this series (which would be logical if this series continues past 3 movies), I have every confidence that the character would be approached a lot differently than the last movie incarnations.

  1. Sam Says:

    Why, dont they Bring back Mr. Freeze. Two-Face Was cool and all. but, Mr. Freeze gave a Creepy edge to the comics and Previous movies. Like joker he was in Fact a Scary man. It would be Interesting to see if he ever comes to mind. and, the Idea of Robin! well, just aslong as he wont be hokey like robin is. The Third film will be interesting to see where they go with it

  1. RONBOND007 Says:

    I hope Robin will be in the third Batman film. Batman needs Robin. Batman is more fun when Robin is with him. When I first saw Batman in The New Adventures of Batman cartoon he always had Robin with him. I've always liked Robin's colorful costume as well as Batman's.

    Robin can be done right today just don't do him as the HOLY THIS HOLY THAT guy. Batman:TAS had the best version of Robin as well as the comic series Dark Victory in which the third film will be based on. Have Robin's (Dick Grayson's) costume though as all red with a black cape like Tim Drake currently wears in the comics. Robin makes Batman feel like a father figure as well as an older brother and provides light into Batman's grim world. Robin is an important part of the Batman mtyhos. Without Robin Batman is just another ordinary character. I hope Robin will be in the third film as well as a fourth if there is one. If he's not in the third he should definitely be in a fourth starting a new trilogy but I prefer Robin would be in the third Batman film coming out in 2011.

    I don't want to wait till around 2014 to see a Batman/Robin film since it's taking three years between Batfilms. I hope Robin(Dick Grayson) will be in the third Batman but as the 12-year old he was when he made his debut in Detective Comics #38 in 1940.

    Then there could be a second Batman trilogy with Batman and Robin ending with Dick Grayson becoming Nightwing and Tim Drake becoming the next Robin. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS BATMAN NEEDS ROBIN??!!

  1. black hawk Says:

    I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A 12 YEAR OR 13 YEAR OLD BOY AS ROBIN, AKA DICK GRAYSON, AND HE SHOULD BE PLACED INTO BATMAN'S CARE AFTER HIS PARENTS CARE, HE SHOULD BE A BLONDE HAIRED DICK GRAYSON, AND HE SHOULD BE INTROUDUCED IN THE 3RD FILM

  1. MooseHead Says:

    I would like to see Robin as a 12 or 13 yr old kid and going in depth with the whole thing and how his mom and dad really died, i mean yea the new batman movie is dark but i think if they get the right guy and give him a new suit ( and then give him the red and yellow suit) that Robin being in the 3rd or 4th film will be cool just get the right stuff and look at were the city is in the movies dark, not ur avrage city

  1. KIRK Says:

    PLEASE MR NOLAN DO A ROBIN CHARACTER BUT MAKE HIM 12 YRS OLD

  1. kyr Says:

    Batman 3:
    Joker, Two Face, Catwoman, Talia....Yes!!!
    Robin??? Hell no!!!!!

  1. Ben Says:

    I really dont want to see robin in this movie, once hes introduced then we will have to have a whole line of more batman. Thats good though I just dont feel like having warner bros have to make more movies based on someone we dont need right now. Batman is the main priority. And yes Two-Face and maybe someone more messed up like..the clayman or soemthing, someone whos been genetically altered so it makes it more fantasy.

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