Spoilers below for anyone who hasn't yet watched through Episode 10 of The Punisher. titled "Virtue of the Vicious."

Though Frank Castle ends up killing a ton of people in the first season of Netflix's The Punisher, he does a pretty good job of keeping his victim base outside of the main characters. (Not a perfect job, but a pretty good one.) Still, there were some Punisher stars whose characters met their makers in big and bold ways, and CinemaBlend recently got to speak with actors Daniel Webber and Michael Nathanson about saying goodbye to their respective roles of Lewis Walcott and Sam Stein.

The role of Lewis was certainly not a simple one, and while young soldiers with PTSD have often been vaguely constructed for mainstream TV shows, Daniel Webber brought a lot of depth and fractured humanity to his performance. While he obviously ends up committing heinous crimes, post-war Lewis isn't all that different from post-war Frank or Billy, though he's far more unable to keep his demons at rest. And by the end of the time-twisted Episode 10, Lewis' plot to kill Senator Ori had turned into a botched hostage situation and a suicide bombing. When I asked Webber how he felt about being killed off like that, here's what he told me.

I mean, we're sort of playing out the stories that are written for us, I think. And you make it make sense and work for you. Of course, I would have loved to hang around and see where else his story could have gone. But I think it's a very beautiful ending, and in some ways, it's totally the only ending for Lewis, unless we would've taken it in a more hopeful direction. But I think there's a lesson for Frank in his death, and I think Frank needs to see the death to learn that lesson as he goes on. I think they set the stage for that so well.

Daniel Webber totally nailed it in saying this was the only ending for Lewis. After seeing his increasing paranoia and discomfort with everything and everyone around him, to the point where he's going all Zodiac Killer with newspaper correspondence about his crimes (in this case a bombing), Lewis was most certainly not destined for mental rehabilitation and jail-time. Had he been able to find a more solid and personal line of communication earlier on, or if Curtis could have taken him in full-time, Lewis might not have gone over the deep end in such a fashion, but by the time we meet up with him in The Punisher's early episodes, he's likely too far gone already.

As well, while Billy doesn't give two shits about what happened to Lewis after he booted him out of Anvil (for completely justifiable reasons), there's a lot for Frank to take in from his dealings with the troubled young man, who tries appealing to Frank's sensibilities by saying they should be teammates. Frank is obviously disgusted to hear something like that, saying they're nothing alike, but that's obviously not completely true; they're both former soldiers needing others to pay for injustices dealt to them. But Frank needs to keep Lewis in mind as a cautionary tale of what can happen when that particular need overrides every other human instinct and emotion.

On the practical side of bringing his Punisher character to life, the L.A. resident Daniel Webber spent a lot of the New York production doing Marine training and martial arts routines to inform his physical performance, with the mental side developed through talking with military consultants and reading lots of tragic interviews and books by soldiers. So by the time Lewis' end game became clear and tangible, all that preparation finally came into play. Here's what the actor told me about putting his last episode together and finally getting some acting time with Jon Bernthal.

It was quite nice, ironically. I'd been training for six months, basically, so it was so truly fantastic to actually get to have Lewis physically get involved. Because so much of the journey for him is just contained and compressed, and it's just this pressure-cooker of a situation, until he does literally explode. And I loved that. Give me more of that. I wish they'd continued with it. The process of it was just a delight, and working with Jon was just fantastic. And I've never been in big action sequences, so watching him do his thing, he is so powerfully good. It was very cool, it was very fun.

Having played the role of John Wilkes Booth in Hulu's Stephen King adaptation 11.22.63, Daniel Webber has certainly made a name for himself by excelling as super-intense and unpredictable villains. And though his time in the MCU may be over, we'll hopefully get to see him getting even bigger roles in the future.

Okay, Punisher fans. Find out what actor Michael Nathanson has to say about Sam Stein's buggy-eyed death on the next page.

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