‘There Were Some Lines That Were Crossed’: Travis Barker’s Ex Shanna Moakler On What It’s Like Co-Parenting With Kourtney Kardashian

Shanna Moakler on The Talk; Travis Barker and Kourtney Kardashian on The Kardashians.
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The Kardashian-Jenner family has curated a reputation for itself when it comes to co-parenting. Dating all the way back to Kris Jenner and Robert Kardashian’s friendly post-divorce relationship, the family has remained close with Scott Disick, Tristan Thompson, Travis Scott and even Kanye West after their romances ended with the assorted sisters. But what about Shanna Moakler? The mother of Kourtney Kardashian’s stepchildren has a tumultuous history with the reality TV stars, to say the least, and she opened up recently about what co-parenting looks like for her.

Shanna Moakler hates the Kardashians. She’s said it before, and she said it again on the When Reality Hits podcast, telling host Brittany Cartwright that she doesn’t speak to Kourtney Kardashian because, “I don’t like that family.” However, the children she shares with ex-husband Travis Barker — Alabama, 20, and Landon, 22 — are now part of “that family,” whether she likes it or not, so things seem to have reached a cordial place. It wasn’t always that way, though, as Moakler said:

At one point in time, I felt it wasn’t respectful…. At certain times, I felt, ‘Wow, if I had your kids, I wouldn’t be doing some of the shit you’re doing with my kids.’ I would make sure that if I was watching her children, I would’ve just made sure there were lines that weren’t crossed, and I feel like there were some lines that were crossed.

She said there was never a conversation between her and Kourtney Kardashian about expectations or the role Kourtney would play in her children’s lives, but she’s been vocal in the past about how she thinks she’s been alienated from Landon and Alabama since the Blink-182 drummer started dating Kourtney.

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Now, she’s choosing not to harbor “animosity and anger,” saying that as long as the Kardashians treat her children well, that’s all that matters to her. She said:

It is what it is. It’s happened, and I think we’ve all moved forward from it now.

Is there a chance Shanna Moakler and Kourtney Kardashian will ever find common ground, or even become best buds like Christina Haack and Heather Rae El Moussa, to the point that they’re vacationing together? Never say never! The former Miss USA said:

I will say this, there’s been times where one of my children may have had something going on in their lives, where I know Kourtney’s been in the room, you know, when we’re all trying to guide or help one of my kids. And it’s not to say that in the future, you never know. Maybe she and I will go to lunch one day and just have some sort of common respect for one another, or maybe we never will. Nothing’s impossible.

It all comes down to the kids! Seeing someone show up for your children when they’re going through something can do a lot to heal old wounds, but I’m still not putting any money on Shanna Moakler making an appearance on The Kardashians when it returns to the 2026 TV schedule. While we wait for news about Season 8, you can stream the first seven seasons of the famous family’s reality show with a Hulu subscription.

Heidi Venable
Content Producer

Heidi Venable is a Content Producer for CinemaBlend, a mom of two and a hard-core '90s kid. She started freelancing for CinemaBlend in 2020 and officially came on board in 2021. Her job entails writing news stories and TV reactions from some of her favorite prime-time shows like Grey's Anatomy and The Bachelor. She graduated from Louisiana Tech University with a degree in Journalism and worked in the newspaper industry for almost two decades in multiple roles including Sports Editor, Page Designer and Online Editor. Unprovoked, will quote Friends in any situation. Thrives on New Orleans Saints football, The West Wing and taco trucks.

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